I follow the Snob, he's alright.  
I've owned a carbon fiber bike, it was alright.
On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 8:24:49 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Thanks for sharing this link Keith. I do enjoy the irreverence of Eben, 
> but he certainly seems to be tempering as he ages. Among the salient points 
> he makes, I found the following to be a favorite: 
>
> "See, carbon bikes and components were designed to be serviced by shop 
> technicians and team mechanics, not regular schmucks like you. In fact, 
> you’ve probably even less qualified to work on them than you are to ride 
> them."
>
> As I enjoy tinkering with my bikes almost as much as riding them, it seems 
> metal bicycles are for me.
>
> In the end though, if someone wants to ride a carbon fiber bike for 
> whatever reason then go for it!
>
> Cheers, John
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 10:25:42 AM UTC-8 Jock Dewey wrote:
>
>> BSNYC almost always makes good sense and always makes me happy, often 
>> laughing out loud all by myself.  
>>
>> I have in the past referred to ‘plastic bikes’ (RSchwinn’s moniker) as 
>> BIC bikes, after those cheap disposable one-use pens. 
>>
>> Like so many of you, I’m still riding a Schwinn ‘Waterford’ Paramount 
>> frameset I brought along in 1985. At the time, a prestigious racing machine 
>> along with Masi / Colnago / Bianchi / Cinelli earning many palmares. With 
>> its few nods to modernity e.g. indexed DT levers and 32mm Conti 5000s I 
>> quite happily ride along with all the local carbons and always seem to be 
>> able hold my place in line. Despite the gear restriction of 7-speed vs 11 / 
>> 12 that all the others ride. 
>>
>> So what’s the odds my pals plastic bikes will still be on the road in 
>> 2059?
>>
>>
>> Up close and personal…still not a mark on it after all these years and 
>> all those miles. If we take care of that old Campy stuff, my experience 
>> tells me it’s nearly indestructible. 
>>
>> I still get all giddy every time it comes up in rotation 🤪
>>
>> Jock
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 8:15 AM iamkeith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Eben Weiss shines a light on the folly of carbon, in the way only he can.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.outsideonline.com/culture/opinion/theres-no-good-reason-to-buy-a-carbon-bike/?fbclid=IwAR0muu-zFYlIDfTmjI3DiAeGq8a9WL0O3NfeyNV6biqV4dGqV-CGxsRbrDU
>>>
>>> While I'm at it, I've been meaning to share this.   A modern roadie 
>>> discovers steel:
>>>
>>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_lh6qCZESZU
>>>
>>>  I enjoy this guy's, Lois Scott's, youtube videos, because he 
>>> articulates the modern rooadie mindset so well.  I left the lycra and aero, 
>>> group-ride mindset behind me so many decades ago that I often feel like 
>>> those people and I speak an entirely different language.  Over the last 
>>> year or so, he discovered steel and became a convert.  There are a number 
>>> of videos on his youtube "channel" documenting his journey.  This is just 
>>> one I could find from near his epiphany.  I think he's taken it further 
>>> since.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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