When comparing, give a good look at seat tube angle. Rivendells are more laid back than most. Many people just slide their saddle all the way back out of habit, and on a Rivendell, that may put you an inch or more further back than on some other bikes with a 74 degree seat tube angle. If the Homer indeed has a slacker seat tube angle, then you'd need to run the saddle further forward on the rails to get the same butt to feet position as your "known good" machine.
Good luck with the exploration and experimentation Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 5:00:29 PM UTC-8 ian m wrote: > You can compare the geometry of the Homer against your Breezer on > bikeinsights.com. Worth a look to find the differences > > On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 7:06:31 PM UTC-5 eitanz...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Thanks Bill, I don't have my bike fit completey figure out yet. I used >> to bike a lot more 20 years ago (mountain biking) and have recently gotten >> back into riding. To your point, I am hoping to get a professional bike fit >> sometime in the near future. (Nate Loyal seems well-recommended and >> reviewed.) Not cheap but likely one of the best bang for the buck bike >> "upgrades." When I mention "endurance," I am referring more to "road bike >> with more relaxed geometry than a race bike," than endurance athletics per >> se. I am in decent shape but would like to be able to work up to day-long >> rides, which will require some work on aerobic endurance as well as >> adjustments to bike and rider. Currently I am significantly less >> comfortable on the Homer than on the drop-bar Breezer Doppler Pro I have. I >> was too stretched on that one until I switched out the bars. The bars I am >> thinking of for the Homer are the Velo Orange Rando bars, which have about >> a 10mm shorter reach than the Noodle, and will accomodate bar ends. >> >> On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 2:42:05 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >>> Here are a few thoughts: >>> >>> People who know exactly what works for them figure it out over a long >>> time with lots of bikes, and have a set of numbers in their pocket so they >>> can know before buying whether a particular will set up correctly for them. >>> It sounds like you don't have that all figured out for yourself. Is that >>> a reasonable assumption? >>> >>> People who don't have their fit completely figured out for themselves >>> are usually well advised to get a fitting from an experienced fitter who >>> understands the target use-case. Can you find such a person? Have you had >>> anybody who knows about such things look at you while you are riding? >>> >>> This is intended for an endurance/all-road use case. Are you currently >>> an endurance athlete? Or do you aspire to be an endurance athlete? Do you >>> want the bike to fit the body you have, or the body you intend to have? >>> >>> Those are my thoughts. Best of luck >>> >>> Bill Lindsay >>> El Cerrito, CA >>> >>> On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 1:20:53 PM UTC-8 eitanz...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, wanted to introduce myself and my bikes. Over the last six >>>> months I went from zero to two Rivendells, and joined this group--though >>>> this is my first post: First up, a Cheviot, picked up secondhand, as my >>>> city bike. Previous owner built this up swanky: Son, XTR,, Pacenti, Paul, >>>> XT, etc. . added the front and rear racks. I also picked up a Riv >>>> Happisack, which alternates with the YEPP mount. Apologies for the >>>> distinctly un-glamorous garage pic: >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: IMG_2009.jpeg] >>>> >>>> I love this bike. It is exceedingly comfortable and beautiful. >>>> >>>> Last month I took delivery of a Homer, which I had built up to be a >>>> zippy road bike with a classic look: 9 speed friction shifting using the >>>> Dia Compe shifters to XT derailleur, Rene Herse crankset, Paul brakes, the >>>> TRP drilled brake levers, with Velocity Quill rims on Deore hubs. >>>> >>>> [image: IMG_2739.jpeg] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That said, as beautiful as this bike is, I haven't been able to get >>>> comfortable on it. I am too stretched out. I have tried raising the bars a >>>> bit from these pics, but fundamentally I think the reach is too long. I >>>> gave my height/PBH to Antonio at Rivendell, and they set the bike up with >>>> an 80mm stem. I have ordered a 70mm version of the stem, though I'm >>>> concerned that's getting pretty short. Next step if that's not enough is >>>> try a shorter-reach handlebar, in a narrower size. If that doesn't work I >>>> fear I will need to sell the bike. I could replace the drops with upright >>>> bars, but I already have the Cheviot and specifically wanted a drop-bar >>>> endurance/all-roadish bike. >>>> >>>> I get the need to raise the bars, but I don't want a situation where >>>> the bars are 5" above the saddle. >>>> >>>> Any thoughts on other ways to get this bike to fit better? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> --Eitan (in Los Angeles) >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8da2f253-208f-4d7c-b01e-c7eebb5002a6n%40googlegroups.com.
