If you gave up on them and consider yourself an inept mechanic, then I 
think you've probably made the right decision.  Setting these brakes up is 
a varsity maneuver.  

BL

On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 6:05:32 PM UTC-8 Robert Blunt wrote:

> Bill, I would also love to know. I recently gave up on mine and opted for 
> Paul cantis because of the squeal. I just couldnt figure out how to dial 
> them in but I am also a pretty inept mechanic.
> Best,
> Rob Blunt
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 7:35 PM Jim Kramka <kram...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Congrats on dialing in the Rene Herse cantilevers. I have a pair on a 
>> Soma Grand Randonneur that squeals. I'd love to know what your protocol was 
>> for getting rid of the squeal. I have some ideas but haven't reserved the 
>> time to try them out. I'm pretty certain that front-to-back toe-in isn't 
>> the issue but maybe it's the top-to-bottom angle at which the pad presses 
>> against the rim.
>>
>> Enjoy the ride!
>>
>> Jim in Tennessee
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 1:31 PM Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A few weeks late, I've managed to get out on a couple "shake down" rides 
>>> on the RoadeoRosa.  I normally don't need "shake down" rides because my 
>>> process of pulling builds together has gotten pretty dialed.  This one was 
>>> a lot more challenging because of the brakes set up.  I had never used Rene 
>>> Herse Cantilevers and I was experimenting with fancy wheels that are 
>>> purported to yield superior braking performance.  The shake down rides were 
>>> aimed at hideous brake squeal.  These Rene Herse brakes are super powerful 
>>> and super light, but their design is super simple which means they are not 
>>> "adjustable" in the traditional sense.  You can do things but it's a 
>>> process where you want to go very slowly in very small steps, and avoid 
>>> having to un-do anything.  The stakes are high.  Anyway, I plodded through 
>>> with successful results and came out the other side, learning a few things 
>>> on the way.  At least for now, that fancy wheel set with the special 
>>> braking surface is set aside to try on a caliper brake bike.  
>>>
>>> I think next weekend, the 16th or 17th, I'll do Mount Diablo Summit #3 
>>> for the year, and there's no reason not to do it on the RoadeoRosa.  This 
>>> weekend I'm doing a 300k on a different bike.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 4:09:57 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are the 700c smooth ones intended for 30-34mm tires.  The fender 
>>>> lines are indeed pretty good.  Not totally perfect but close. 
>>>>
>>>> BL in EC
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 2:13:04 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak, 
>>>> Woodstown NJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> What width RH fenders are you using???  They look to be the Smooth 
>>>>> style.
>>>>>
>>>>> The front and rear fender lines are excellent
>>>>>
>>>>> John Hawrylak
>>>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  
>>>>>> Legolas fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  
>>>>>> TPU tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm 
>>>>>> bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R 
>>>>>> Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and 
>>>>>> housing.  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS 
>>>>>> brake 
>>>>>> levers (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 
>>>>>> saddle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene 
>>>>>> Herse pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>>>>>
>>>>>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>>
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