I would say a good rule of thumb:
- An offer which begins as a DM
- The offer comes from someone who has no posts in the group
= "Run Away!"

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:

> Would it be possible to list the names of the scammers somewhere? Just for 
> those initiated contact by a private message prior to the ban. 
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 1:46:25 PM UTC-6 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> Hey all - 
>>
>> I just removed another person who listed an item and appears to have been 
>> harvesting internet images and presenting them as their own. That's not OK. 
>>
>> This has happened pretty infrequently on this group, and it always a 
>> minor PITA to deal with. 
>>
>> All of which has me wanting to tighten down the listing of for sale items 
>> for new members. These problems always stem from some "enterprising" 
>> individual who joins the group and tries to post a for sale item 
>> immediately. I can count on one hand the times that some "known" group 
>> member acted inappropriately in a transaction.
>>
>> The way in which we've avoided this in the past is by asking folks to 
>> engage on the list first, and use it as a way to rehome items second. I'm 
>> going to be a lot more rigid about that now. 
>>
>> I'll update the list info to reflect this in stronger language, but if 
>> your first post is a For Sale item, I won't be passing it through the 
>> queue. If you would like to offer items to other members, please engage 
>> with the community for a while (purposefully vague...) and demonstrate that 
>> you aren't simply here to cash in. 
>>
>> So - deep breath everyone. 
>>
>> Thanks to those who shared more than just conjecture. That clarified the 
>> issue in this case. That's important data. 
>>
>> As for potential or new members who just want to sell gear and not be 
>> part of this community - there's ebay or other marketplaces which protect 
>> you and the buyer, as well as more transactionally focused groups. Please 
>> use those. 
>>
>> Other than that, we're coming into riding season. Go get some miles in.
>>
>> Jim / List-admin
>>
>

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