Chris,
I've been using a TA Pro Vis w/ 33/47 rings and a Campy 9-speed Centaur front 
derailleur for a long time with no shifting troubles. I could never get a 
Shimano FD to work with the TA cranksets no matter what gears used.

The Campy 9-speed FD's have a good shape for moving the chain and they are 
narrow enough to clear the TA Pro Vis arms.

Good Luck!




On Jun 18, 2010, at 9:12 PM, XO-1.org Rough Riders wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> I've never gotten suitable shifting with a TA Pro 5 Vis crankset with
> 32/46 rings. This is mated with Shimano 9-speed on the rear (11x34)
> and bar-end shifters (Shimano 9 also). First I had it set up with a
> Suntour Superbe Pro front derailleur and it wanted to overshift once
> every 25 to 50 shifts, no matter how I adjusted the derailleur.
> 
> The local bike guru, who knows stuff old and new, suggested a modern
> front derailleur, as they are designed to shifter narrower 9/10-speed
> chains, whereas the old Suntour derailleur was meant for 6/7-speed
> chains. The thought being: Maybe the "old" derailleur's cage is wider
> because the chains for which it was intended were wider; now that
> wider cage made it throw a narrow chain too far. That make some
> sense.
> 
> Well, I've installed a brand new Ultegra 10-spd front derailleur and
> it seems to keep the chain on either one ring or the other, and it
> downshifts fine, but it takes a major tug on the shifter to get it to
> move the chain to the big ring. In fact, when I upshift, what it's
> trying to do is shove the chain between the rings, into the hole
> between the five arms of the right crank, in the sizable vertical gap,
> or hole, created by the 14 tooth difference in ring size. Of course,
> modern rings, with their ramps and pins, would probably toss that
> chain right up onto the big ring instantaneously. But I like the low Q-
> factor of these TA arms (this is actually my GF's bike I am talking
> about; she's 5'4" and prefer the narrower tread even more than I do),
> plus the ring sizes available are preferable to a "compact" design.
> 
> Yes, the derailleur is mounted as low as possible abov the top rights.
> In fact, the front derailleur cage is so long, it almost hits the
> right chainstay down at the bottom. I find that odd since a 46 tooth
> big ring is not small, at all. I don't see how this could work on a
> crank with a smaller big ring.
> 
> Any thoughts or suggestions?
> 
> BTW, sorry I don't seem to have a good shot of the bike, or especially
> its drivetrain online, though you can see her with the bike (gold 1974
> Williams converted to 650B wheels) in front of the Nate Harrison Grade
> sign near the bottom of this post:
> 
> http://www.xo-1.org/2008/12/rough-riding-northern-san-diego-county.html
> 
> We're headed out to Ramona / Black Canyon tomorrow and I'll get some
> shots of the parts in question then, in case that might help any of
> you help me assay the situation. Here's the blog report of a semi-
> similar version of the riding we're doing tomorrow:
> 
> http://www.xo-1.org/2009/01/rough-riding-north-eastern-san-diego.html
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Chris Kostman
> La Jolla, CA
> http://www.adventurecorps.com
> http://www.XO-1.org
> http://www.the508.com
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