That's impressive, and if someone can average over 18 mph in windy
conditions for 62 1/2 miles that's proof enough that the bike is not
holding him back.
Is your same a later model? How does the latest model differ from the first
edition? Do riders of later Sams find the bike different from riders of
original Sams? I ask because my original did not shine for me.
Linking to another thread, about Sam and weight, I rode my Matthews #1
("road bike for dirt" -- position and components very like my road bikes
but 50s (Oracle Ridges) at 19 psi for combined pavement and sandy dirt
(firm thank God thanks to recent rain). I have to say that 31 1/2 lb does
not feel slow of cumbersome.
BTW: 28 psi for 48s at 125 lb? My OR regular casings feel harsh over
expansion cracks (8" to 12") at 20; 18 is smoother, works as well as any
other pressure in sand, and corners just fine on pavement. I aim for "a bit
under 20 psi." Me, 170-175.
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 10:34 AM Ted Durant <[email protected]> wrote:
> FWIW, I just rode 100km (moderately hilly, headwind kicked up coming home)
> in 3h 27m on Great Lakes Sam. If I'd been on my Rivendell Road or my Heron
> Road, my subjective guess is that I'd have been 3-5 minutes faster, but
> maybe not. That headwind coming home really sapped me. On the Riv Road the
> bars are lower and farther away, so my position is a bit more efficient. If
> I wanted, I could drop the Sam bars down a bit. The stem on Great Lakes Sam
> is 1cm longer than the ones on my other 2 Sams, so it's closer to my road
> bike position. I'm not convinced it's better.
>
> In the recent Sam Hillborne thread I gave the weight of my latest Sam
> frame and fork, and the frame is among the heaviest I've weighed, but the
> fork is surprisingly lighter than some others. The Sam does not ride
> "heavy" in my experience. At 125 pounds and putting out 100-150 watts, I
> only feel swing in an especially noodly frame (Terraferma Corsa 650B, for
> example). But I do feel (and see) fork flex (or lack thereof) over bumps.
> We have a lot of roads where there's a notch in the pavement every 10
> meters or so ... ka-thump .... ka-thump ..... ka-thump. I can't take more
> than a couple of minutes on those roads on 26mm tires at 70psi. On 32mm
> tires at 40psi, they're almost tolerable, but I still ride the edge of the
> road where the ka-thump is a bit less. On 48mm tires at 28psi, they are
> close to unnoticed, especially with the Sam's fork (as compared to the
> BreadWinner it replaced). Today's ride confirmed how I feel about the Sam -
> super comfortable and gives up next-to-nothing in speed.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
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