George and Brian: No, it wasn't a Bones; I had one of those too. This was
tubular steel and hooked to the top, bottom, and each side of the trunk (or
hatch) with flat metal hooks and adjustable straps. I recall liking it
better than the Bones which wouldn't let you open the trunk; or I think
that the one I owned 20 years ago or whenever didn't let you do that; from
photos the current ones do seem to allow it.

Oh well, it's academic since I have an old hatchback from which I've
removed the back seats so that I can carry 1 bike disassembled even with
30+ inch tires, and 2 or 3 bikes if you remove the front wheels and lower
the saddles.

As the inevitable tangent, here's a photo I took 15 years or so ago of a
hatch rack someone made for his Fiat 500 (the big modern one, not the
petite original one).

Patrick "one more aside: Wabi Woolen ss full-zip mid-weight merino jersey
did fine just now at 98*F and sky-high 15% humidity" Moore; had to give a
plug for Wabi Woolen.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 11:23 AM George Schick <[email protected]> wrote:

> Patrick - I used to have a rack that worked pretty much exactly as you
> describe back in the mid-90's. Can't remember the manf. though.  A Saris
> maybe?  Don't think it was a Thule.  But I used it on an old Mitsubishi
> Galant and it worked fine. Can't see how it would've worked on an SUV,
> though.
>
> On Wednesday, July 31, 2024 at 10:51:35 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Speaking of old but well designed bike racks, I once bought one very
>> second hand that strapped to the trunk lid of a sedan -- to sides and
>> bottom lip of trunk lid -- and carried I think 2 bikes with front wheels
>> removed and fork dropouts clamped to a forward clamp. The rear wheels
>> strapped to cups at the other end of the device. The bikes rode
>> fore-and-aft with rear wheels over the end of the trunk but high enough to
>> be safe from being rear ended. You could still lift the trunk lid with the
>> rack attached (in fact, with the bike/s attached, tho' the weight made it
>> awkward).
>>
>> I daresay you could have strapped this to the rear hatch of a hatchback
>> or minivan (I don't do SUVs) to carry the bikes more vertically but I never
>> tried this.
>>
>> Does anyone know who made these?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 6:31 PM Chris Halasz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Leah - thank you for starting this thread!
>>>
>>> We are in the market for a rack, and a car bigger than our Honda Fit to
>>> go with the rack, for transporting our bikes around!
>>>
>>> I'm surprised there's no discussion on Hollywood Racks
>>> <https://hollywoodracks.com>, favored over the 1Up by of many of our
>>> friends. I understand the Hollywood Racks fold and stow nicely, which is
>>> important to us. Our criteria: Fits a big Clem with mid-40mmish tires, and
>>> folds up nicely for garage storage
>>
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