I have a basket on the front of my Clem that I use for cat-packing. My boy is 16lbs, must be near 20 with the weight of the basket and rack. And once going it's just fine. But the wheel flop is very bad when stopped or very slow manoeuvring. Basically can't take my hands off the bars or the whole bike will be on the ground.
On Tuesday, August 20, 2024 at 10:37:40 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > Whoops, sorry, I wrote this without having seen the text below the photo. > Still, I'd be grateful for others' *apercus* about the effect of 20 lb > front loads on the handling of a Clem. > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 8:26 AM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Chris (and others): How heavy is your front-basket dog? And how much does >> its weight hurt handling, and how? >> >> I'm curious because I keep thinking of a down-market Clem as a >> "no-shoes-ruse," lock-up-outside, thieves-be-damned errand beater, and it >> would be very nice to have one that can carry a ~20 lb dog on a front rack >> with attached basket.* >> >> *Said dog is very high-strung, so a secure front-load carrying solution >> would be preferable -- recall how 25 years ago a very cute but very nervous >> Shi Tzu tethered to a crate on the rear rack decided to save herself by >> diving over the side while we were under way on our tandem, causing >> everyone to fall over and narrowly miss crushing the dog. A front position >> would allow me to keep an eye on him and intervene quickly at need. >> >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 9:58 AM Chris Halasz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I transported this squirming little nuisance, well tethered, in a front >>> basket: >>> >>> [image: Olive_Montecito_Flower_Field.jpg] >>> >>> Her most favorite thing to do, and she'd shift side-to-side enjoying the >>> lean into the turns, not to mention sighting squirrels. >>> >>> I worried that some bug would smack her in the eye, and she'd have no >>> part of goggles. No sir. >>> >>> Relocating her to a rear basket (sorry, no photos I could quickly find) >>> was a dramatic improvement in stability. She still squirmed, but nothing >>> like the sudden changes you'd feel when she was up front. >>> >>> A bicycle is designed for its center of mass to be somewhere in the >>> vicinity of the saddle (irrespective of the vogue 'low trail' of days that >>> may work slightly better, for some, with a rando bag). >>> >>> - Chris >>> >>> On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 6:56:47 AM UTC-7 Marc Irwin wrote: >>> >>>> On the rear for a mixte because the extra stays stabilize the weight >>>> when it's loaded and you don't have to raise your leg over it. The front >>>> for diamond frame. >>>> >>>> Marc >>>> >>>> On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 8:29:31 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Tough call. I have a bike with each. Whatever you choose will feel a >>>>> little foreign but you’ll get used to it and not think about it anymore. >>>>> I >>>>> think I like the front basket a bit better, but then you do have the >>>>> annoyance of a front rack that makes your bars swing when parked. >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 3:22:08 PM UTC-4 James wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What do ya'll prefer for a basket? On the front rack on the rear? >>>>>> I've ridden with both extensively and see an argument for either. I'm >>>>>> specifically asking regarding long wheelbases & heavy loads >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/309f168f-3c20-4324-aa1f-940f85a01746n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/309f168f-3c20-4324-aa1f-940f85a01746n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >> services >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >> >> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >> >> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >> > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* > > *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* > > *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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