I've never fully trusted tallux stems for swept back off road use. A steel 
stem gives a bit more confidence with added stiffness. I've had great luck 
with a single bolt 130mm Ritchey in the past on trail riding. Make sure the 
bolt is greased well so it snugs up with the least amount of resistance as 
possible so you run less change of slippage. If I recall Jason said it's 
about a 30% increase of clamp force vs dry. You should be careful not to 
over-tighten as bolt snapping can become an issue if you're not careful. 

I think also take into account Grants philosophy of "ride like a Mongolian" 
- try to use balance and position over the bike to give nimbleness and 
lightness to the bar over obstacles and smooth out your riding vs heavy 
handed leveraging the bars for all your movements. Drops are where it does 
get exceedingly tricky - but adapting riding to the equipment is half the 
fun. 

On Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 11:51:10 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Are you sure about the clamp diameter on the swept-back bars you have? 
> What is the brand? 
> If the bar is chromed or even highly polished, that can create a smooth 
> enough surface that slippage is a problem. 
> I will point you to "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" to the 
> description of the shim... 
> Might just be all you need. 
>
> Jim
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 11:45:45 AM UTC-7 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> I just put some swept back handlebars on my bicycle and I am having 
>> trouble with slipping. The handlebars sweep back 7 inches or so with a 26mm 
>> clamp diameter. My stem is a nitto tallux and I'm switching in an old 130mm 
>> Ritchey stem for more reach, but I'm still worried about the bar slipping. 
>> Is there a good solution for gripping big bars that increase torque at the 
>> stem clamp, especially when riding on gravel/off-road? 
>>
>> I might be able to tighten it more, but I'm worried that going tighter 
>> will strip or deform the bolt. Do folks ever use thread-locker or some 
>> adhesive for extra stick? Or do I need a 2-4 bolt faceplate stem for the 
>> extra gripping strength?
>>
>> Let me know if you have any tips/tricks/ideas! Thanks,
>>
>> Ethan
>>
>

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