"Wouldn't verticals make the frame less apt for its apparent intended use 
as the single speed signified by the name?"

This is fascinating.  An individual implicitly shows an utter disregard for 
bicycles' apparent intended use by serially converting all possible 
platforms to fixies.  That individual doubles-down on that disregard by 
brainstorming a way to build a Clem as a fixie.  That same individual then 
makes a post explicitly stating that the only opinion about anything that 
matters is their own opinion.  And then, with extreme earnestness, argues 
that the NAME of a bicycle model pigeonholes the intended use for that 
bicycle.  

Can you please list the other bicycle models in the history of Earth that 
encode their specific intent in their name?  If that list is empty, then 
why is this the one bike in the history of Earth that is defined by your 
interpretation of its name?

It has custom proprietary track ends that have a dedicated hanger for a 
tensioner.  I call that the intent that the build include a tensioner.  I 
am pretty sure it is the only production bike on earth with a dedicated 
single-purpose tensioner hanger.  
It is the only current production bike on earth (I'm pretty sure) with a 
solo left-side down tube shifter boss.  I call that the intent that the 
build include a left side shifter.
The complete comes with a triple crank set with two chain rings.  I call 
that the intent that the build include two or three chain rings.  
The complete comes with a single freewheel (1, one, Uno). 
Grant's build is not a single speed.  Grant celebrates and encourages using 
a cool old freebie derailleur as your tensioner.  I call that the intent to 
run it as an Nx1, NxOne, NxUno.  

I think the primary intent of the RoadUno is a 2x1, and I think that is a 
genius format.  If I had to impart meaning on the name RoadUno, I guess I 
would say it's in reference to the single freewheel in back and the 120mm 
O.L.D.  I also think they had the name and the artwork and the headbadge 
before the bike design was finished in its evolution.  That's why I call my 
RoadUno a RoDeuxNo.  Maybe I'll make decal mods on mine.  

I think people who want a fixie with a Rivendell head badge on it can 
absolutely get that by building their RoadUno as a fixie.  If that's what 
they decide to do, I hope they love it.   I think people who want a single 
speed A Homer Hilsen can absolutely get that by building up their RoadUno 
as a single speed.  If that's what they do, I hope they love it.  I think 
the clear PRIMARY intent of the RoadUno is a 2x1, and if Riv had gone 
ALL-IN on that primary intent, they would have gone with vertical dropouts. 
 I like the track ends.  I like how they look, and I like that they are 
proprietary.  I like that they look like a monster.  I like the rack eyelet 
they present.  I have a rear-hub workaround that will achieve the wheel 
removal ease of vertical dropouts, and will also enable a perfect fender 
treatment, which is the other benefit of vertical dropouts.  I think the 
track ends earn an ALTERNATIVE build option for those who don't want to go 
with the primary intent of the bike.  I get it that some people hate the 
look of a tensioner, or just dislike the existence of a tensioner.  I'm 
sure somebody is going to take their dremel tool to the hanger on their 
RoadUno, which they have every right to do.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, September 11, 2024 at 8:14:21 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I think about only 1 cyclist when I insist that he ride a Rivendell fixed 
> instead of single speed, and that 1 is me; or rather, I. That 1 is I, if 
> you see what I (1) mean.
>
> I don't care if someone rides a Roaduno fixed or free or multispeed; my 
> question bears on facts and not morals. But if I got one, I'd certainly set 
> it up fixed, or perhaps fixed/free.
>
> Wouldn't verticals make the frame less apt for its apparent intended use 
> as the single speed signified by the name?
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 11:14 PM Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ... What are the reasons why you think any individual cyclist should or 
>> would prefer riding fixed on a RoadUno over riding a single speed with a 
>> freewheel?  I've got like 7 or 8 reasons why I would never set up my new 
>> RoadUno as a fixie*.  Do you have any reasons why I would or should set up 
>> my new RoadUno as a fixie?  
>>
>
>> *In fact, I'm so convinced in my thinking, that my mind is made up that 
>> the RoadUno should have come with vertical dropouts.  
>>
>

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