N+1 is a difficult one. 

My main limitations are realistically space to store given cost of renting 
a place in Vancouver that can accommodate a large number of bikes for 
better or worse. I struggled in the past building up different types of 
bikes in various configurations and was never really felt at home on 
anything which lead to rotation of bikes. Once I traded my Crust Romanceur 
for my Clementine I realized Clementine my all-terrain forever bike (N) - 
which allowed me to be very very specific about my (+1) including not 
feeling like they needed to be practical in any sense. I've set up a few 
rules to guide myself along. 

1. all +1's must be handmade and my size
2. ideally of Canadian / historic lineage or significance 
3. must be a unique, rare design, or one of a kind - more like artwork than 
bikes
4. Must be a good deal 
5. in case of emergency ignore all rules 

- Orange Clementine is my forever bike. Unlike my crust romanceur forever 
bike or my salsa elmariachi forever bike or my salsa fargo forever bike or 
my surly karate monkey forever bike or surly long haul trucker forever bike 
this is absolutely 100% certain my forever bike ;) 

-Marinoni Track (1979-80ish) dated via the stamped Columbus tubing. Early 
non production model with lots of subtle unique features. (no serial no, no 
paperwork)
-Marinoni Time Trial (1986) 700c/650c funny bike. With the UCI banning 
funny bikes these are somewhat rare, they look incredible, and very few 
were produced by Marinoni. (have a copy of the 1986 order form) 
-Syncros Triathalon bike (my guess would be early 90's based off the 650c 
suspension fork and parts) it's entirely custom and hand built aluminum 
frame with a lot of rare 90's syncros parts- the only frame built by 
Syncros as far as anyone knows. I haven't been able to find out much more 
other     than the owner worked at syncros and is now deceased. Maybe a 
former machinist? The details on the bike are strange and beautiful. Maybe 
would be more at home in a museum - but not really sure there is anything 
like that in Canada. 
-A Raleigh twenty - mostly because I wanted the porteur rack on it and it 
was cheap - also a bike to "borrow" to visitors and Jason's build was 
pretty inspiring. Not particularly attached. 

+1 (ideally my last bike itch to scratch) is a custom via a builder in 
montreal. I wanted a lightweight swept back bar bike with a long top tube 
and lightweight tubing for 'spirited riding' - so wanted a shorter 
wheelbase unlike the new riv's despite my love for a long wheelbase. This 
one is still at the builder - I am out of storage space - so I may hit up 
my landlord to see if I can rent a corner of her garage but that may open 
up pandora's box of N+1

I am done building bikes after this - I swear. 

I would absolutely cave for a production single speed mtb like an all city 
junkyard dog, original 1x1, bianchi bass, or any 90's early 00's SS mtb 
counterparts. Though - I would most definitely have to get rid of something 
to fit this in. 


On Sunday, September 15, 2024 at 1:41:50 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Late in life after spending untold thousands trying to make bikes that I 
> didn't like in some big or small way into bikes that I liked entirely, I've 
> ended up with 3 customs that take care of all my real needs: gofast road, 
> errand road, and on- and off-road. I don't ride real mountain bike terrain 
> so I don't need a real mtb, and that saves me 1 bike; and I don't race or 
> ride in pacelines and that save me another bike, a gofast derailleur bike.
>
> I finally abandoned thoughts of a Monocog replacement, for single speed 
> drop bar riding over sand up to 4" deep, since the added bike would not be 
> ridden enough and would have liabilities that would make it not worth the 
> hassle of ownership, but I do very much want a nice-riding lock-up-outside 
> beater capable of 2" or at a pinch 3" sand that will be largely invisible 
> to thieves and am thinking of a Clem (I  will continue to think about this 
> as long as I feel like it, so don't rush me, OK?). I've also I've toyed 
> with thoughts of a Brompton. And on day perhaps a bike with electric assist.
>
> But when I think hard about my real needs and interests, for the immediate 
> future the only +1 will be a nice but (somewhat) disposable beater all 
> rounder -- "all" here including said sand.
>

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