Peter,

Regarding #3, if you really want to run drop bars, I would call them and 
discuss. The frames are generally designed around upright bars these days 
and that was NOT the case 10-15 years ago.  Drops can be done but I would 
take their advice on sizing.

On Tuesday, October 8, 2024 at 8:44:02 AM UTC-4 Graham McCall wrote:

> Don't over think it too much! Riv's ride so well and are built to be 
> ridden and enjoyed. I have a Clem Jr and it's easily the most fun and 
> comfortable bike I've had. I thought for weeks about the weight and 
> performance of the bike, but I think compared to modern overbuilt 
> disc-brake bikes, all Riv's feel "springy".
>
> On Saturday, October 5, 2024 at 12:26:19 AM UTC-5 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone, 
>>
>> Keen to jump on the Riv bandwagon, I have some questions I would 
>> appreciate your opinion on. 
>> (Although opinion is a strong word for cyclists, let's say your 
>> *thoughts)*
>>
>> 1. PBH vs height - Do you also look at the height when selecting a bike 
>> size or only pbh? I have an unusually high pbh it seems - around 86 cm at 
>> 5'7" - and have my saddles and bars pretty high. When selecting a Riv frame 
>> size should I just look at the pbh and go for it - or should I factor in 
>> the height somewhere too?
>>
>> 2. 650b vs 700c - For those who have ridden both, would you have any 
>> suggestions for going either direction if one could choose between two 
>> frame sizes? I think the tyre and rim options for 700c are quite high and 
>> solely based on that I would consider this size.
>>
>> 3. JA/Atlantis go big or small - Considering how long the top tubes on 
>> these bikes have gotten do you think they lose the option to convert to 
>> drop bars? Analog cycles is a strong proponent of going as short as 0mm on 
>> the (threadless) stem and they are happy running flared bars on their 
>> really long bikes so probably there is room to push anyway..
>>
>> 4. long (er) chainstays - same as above, the chainstays are longer as 
>> compared to the previous models (for these bikes).. I read through older 
>> forum posts that have compared ride experiences with both and it seems 
>> there is a noticeable (good?) effect. For those of you who bought the newer 
>> versions for touring - is the longer chainstay a significant hindrance in 
>> transporting bikes or flying with them?
>>
>> Thank you for helping out, 
>> peter
>>
>

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