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https://www.ebay.com/itm/323500375662 On Thursday, October 24, 2024 at 9:18:24 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > Thanks for warning about plastic. But the wealth of very short stems with > rise and the threadless stem raisers ought between them to meet my needs, > so I daresay no need for an adjustable stem, thank God. > > Schwalbe SV19As: Yes! That’s what I want; thanks. > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 6:27 PM Garth <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I forgot the adjustable stem question. I recall seeing a vid or website >> about a teardown of the innards of a Ritchey and a cheapie. The Ritchey >> was al metal inside, the teeth that hold the setting. The cheapie was >> plastic, ouch, not for riding ! The Ritchey is safe for riding, but 90mm is >> the shortest. Depending on how high you angle it upwards though, it may or >> may not work. >> >> I think Schwalbe SV19A is the lightweight version for the size you need >> and weighs 140g, for what that's worth. >> >> On Thursday, October 24, 2024 at 7:22:32 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> Thanks. The geometry link will be useful. I’m familiar with Jim’s stem >>> tool. The 595 mm figure for the tt is the effective and not the actual >>> length and corresponds to my measurement of the latter >>> >>> I’ll install the saddle to the usual measurements wrt the bb (saddle >>> nose ~3” behind centerline of bb shell, and I like plenty of leg extension) >>> and adjust tilt and then use the saddle nose as the reference point. Fun >>> fact: with the inevitable original issue Flite in the right place and using >>> the same generic Shimano aero levers I always use, and with bar from ~ 1" >>> above to about 1” below saddle nose there should be about 27” between nose >>> of saddle to tip of hoods. Amen. I mean, these are always my starting >>> measurements. >>> >>> The bb will come down about 1/2” with the 60 mm Big Ones compared to the >>> 72 mmRangers and I’ll probably put the bar even with saddle which will >>> allow for slightly more stem extension. I set up the Monocog with the very >>> tall Ranger wheels (about 1” taller than the Big Ones) much as I did my >>> Matthews dirt road bike, even with the shallow bb drop on the Monocog; I’m >>> fine with that. >>> >>> One perhaps bigger problem will be to restrain my impulse to perfect >>> things. This will be a beater and remain a beater, dammit! But I am looking >>> forward to a new Frankenstein creation. >>> >>> Aside, back to the “light tubes or tubeless?” thread: Friend gave me >>> back 2 tubes I’d given him and forgotten about, 622X 2-2.25”. The pair >>> rubber-banded together weighs 250 grams, so perhaps these 125 gram tubes >>> will work fine. I’d hate to stunt the truly lovely rolling feel of these >>> ultra-light, ultra-supple 450 gram Big Ones. >>> >>> >>> Does anyone have any more 125 gram 622 X 2-2.25” tubes to sell me? >>> <<< >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 5:04 PM Garth <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> When comparing reaches though you must know the seat and head tube >>>> angles of each bike in question as that can greatly affect the saddle to >>>> bar reach depending on how many degrees difference. Say one bike has a 72d >>>> STA and the other 73d. If you were not aware of that and positioned the >>>> saddle using the same post @ the same spot on the rails, your reach >>>> estimates will be off as one will be further back of the center of the BB, >>>> and that would make the effective reach greater than the 73d frame. This >>>> is >>>> given the same HTA and relative height of the center-heat tube. If those >>>> are different also, that's more to calculate. BB heights also drastically >>>> change the way you may even want to position yourself in the first place. >>>> I >>>> know all of this from experience in trying get my custom Franklin road >>>> frame and the Bombadil relatively the same in reach and bar height. So far >>>> it hasn't worked out as hoped not from miscalculations, but I'm at the >>>> limits of what parts are available to get it there(longer and low) and how >>>> much I'd have to spend as I can't change the dimensions of the frame ! >>>> Still, the way they feel in being propelled and handle is inherently so >>>> starkly different even if I could get the reach and height relatively the >>>> same, the way I pedal and steer them is going to feel inherently >>>> different. >>>> They're just so differently designed frames. I'm not saying yours are or >>>> are not as I have no clue ! >>>> >>>> You should have an easier time as your reach issue is from reach being >>>> too long and 50-60mm stems with rising angles are plenty. But you must >>>> remember that say a 50mm stem with a +35d rise isn't going to rise all >>>> that >>>> much in usable height. I know you know the link ! >>>> http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php >>>> >>>> Monocogs according to >>>> https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/Bikes,3/Redline/Monocog-29er,4403 >>>> had 73d STA and 72d HTA with a TT of 60.3 on a 17" frame. I assume that is >>>> the medium as other years of that frame called the 17" a medium. (@ sizes >>>> and geometry look for the green "view geometry" link to the right). >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, October 24, 2024 at 6:02:31 PM UTC-4 Elisabeth Sherwood >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ritchey has @ $50 stems with 30-degree rises: >>>>> >>>>> https://ritcheylogic.com/bike/stems/comp-4-axis-30d-stem >>>>> >>>>> (Not available, apparently, from Ritchey directly, but someone should >>>>> have them in the shorter lengths...) >>>>> >>>>> (Note that short-length stems don't actually rise very much, >>>>> regardless of the angle of the rise!) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> >>>>> Liz >>>>> Washington, DC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, October 24, 2024 at 4:34:21 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This list ought to know about this question. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope to install Maes Parallels when I rebuild the Medium 2012 >>>>>> Monocog and since the effective tt is 59.5 cm* compared to the 56.5 or >>>>>> 57 >>>>>> where I usually install such a bar I’ll need a stem that is both 25 or >>>>>> 30 >>>>>> mm shorter than the 80s I use on my road bike and that also gets the bar >>>>>> clamp at least level with saddle (don’t know needed height above spacers >>>>>> since I don’t yet have the saddle installed, but this suffices for the >>>>>> general question). >>>>>> >>>>>> Question: Where can I find threadless stems with 5 cm extensions and >>>>>> a 30 or 35* rise that don’t cost custom prices? a 6 cm ought to work >>>>>> since >>>>>> I will have the bar level with saddle instead of ~3 cm below. >>>>>> >>>>>> This looks promising at $75 but even that is high for a throwaway >>>>>> beater: https://analogcycles.com/products/gnomehopper-60mm-stem >>>>>> >>>>>> Second question: Are adjustable stems sturdy enough for long-term use? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> *I could only find the spec for the 2015 Monocog 29er aluminum but >>>>>> this fits with my own admittedly slapdash measurements. If anyone can >>>>>> correct me, please do so. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will have fun with this build. I think of ultralight 60 mm Big Ones >>>>>> and the long unused S3X with 17 t cog and if I can make it work a >>>>>> cosmetically marred Dura Ace GA 200 crank with 42 t ring for ~ 72, 54, >>>>>> and >>>>>> 45 inch gears or perhaps an 18 for 68, 51, 43. Time will tell. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other >>>>>> writing services >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>>>>> >>>>>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>>>>> >>>>>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f6195333-a653-4a04-8f5e-1d82b672ac3fn%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f6195333-a653-4a04-8f5e-1d82b672ac3fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >>> services >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>> >>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>> >>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0129d1c9-be57-42f5-aa5e-0b8636efd4e0n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0129d1c9-be57-42f5-aa5e-0b8636efd4e0n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* > > *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* > > *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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