Dorothy - that is a good point. I was referring to the 650b wheels. the 
DM24 is not listed as coming in 27.5 / 650b, but maybe this was an OEM 
product?



On Tuesday, November 5, 2024 at 1:22:41 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:

> You don’t say what wheel size you have, but my first run Appa from 2016 
> came with the same multi color nipple wheels as the Clem and they were Alex 
> DM24. I did the same thing you are planning and had the LBS replace the Riv 
> front hub with a Kasai dynacoil, although I later rebuilt it myself when I 
> upgraded the Appa wheels to Velocity Atlas rims, which seemed almost 
> identical in ERD, at least in the 26” size I had
>
> On Monday, November 4, 2024 at 5:40:58 AM UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> While the ERD is listed in the Alex link included(if a DM24) in this 
>> thread, I'd have to ask do you really want/need to dismantle a assumably 
>> perfectly good working wheel ? I mean, is space and resouces so limited 
>> that you can't build another wheel entirely ? 
>>
>> Hi, yes to both. 
>>
>> Thanks for the wisom re ERD and manufacturers inconsistencies.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 4, 2024 at 4:10:14 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> While the ERD is listed in the Alex link included(if a DM24) in this 
>>> thread, I'd have to ask do you really want/need to dismantle a assumably 
>>> perfectly good working wheel ? I mean, is space and resouces so limited 
>>> that you can't build another wheel entirely ? 
>>>
>>> Myself I don't take published ERD for granted so I measure it myself 
>>> using two spokes and a digital caliper. Essentially this way 
>>> https://www.parktool.com/en-us/blog/repair-help/determining-spoke-length-for-wheel-building
>>>
>>> There's no guarantee that every mfr measures ERD the same way, so 
>>> measuring it yourself in a consistent way, with spokes installed as shown 
>>> in the Park link, assures it will be consistently accurate. Also measure 
>>> the hub. 
>>>
>>> Rims need not match, just as using a dynamo hub doesn't match whatever 
>>> rear hub used. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 3, 2024 at 10:25:42 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dry curious? No. Silly autocorrect, *Very curious 🤔
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, November 3, 2024 at 10:23:46 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can’t help with the ERD, but I’m dry curious what you used to stick 
>>>>> the headbadge. I think the double stick tape typically used is about a 
>>>>> sixteenth inch thick. If you go to the hardware store, ask for VHB 
>>>>> outdoor 
>>>>> doublestick tape. That’s “very high bond”, and shouldn’t bump out the 
>>>>> badge 
>>>>> too much, and won’t ever let it go without some serious elbow grease. If 
>>>>> you’re in NYC, I’ll share some of my ample supply with you…
>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, November 3, 2024 at 8:11:55 PM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have this era of clem, with these wheels (multi colored nipples, 
>>>>>> etc) and i don't personally know the ERD of the (front) rim, which I 
>>>>>> need 
>>>>>> to add a dynamo hub to. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any chance someone does know it, having it done it themselves or 
>>>>>> having someone else? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> while i'm here, i hate what i've used to stick the head tube badge 
>>>>>> on, and would like something thinner that allows the badge to properly 
>>>>>> wrap 
>>>>>> around the head tube. does anyone know the exact product rivendell uses, 
>>>>>> or 
>>>>>> perhaps something different or better?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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