Hi Everyone,

Asking for your collective advice / experience here.

I recently installed a Ron's Ortho bar on my Bombadil and haven't been able 
to dial the handlebar angle, reach and my overall posture to make it 
comfortable on my wrists while putting me in a position where I feel like I 
can put down enough power.

For context, the 60cm Bombadil has a longer effective top tube than I'd 
normally choose (63 vs 59) so I thought the Ortho bar would be a perfect 
match. I initially installed it with a 135 Ritchey Force stem but ended up 
swapping it for a Nitto 120 (I might need to go even shorter!)

Anyway, this morning was very windy and I felt like I was pedaling way too 
hard and barely moving so I stopped and tweaked some things:

First I angled the bars a bit less aggressively since I had them really 
pointing down. I also rotated the ergo grips to match my natural wrist 
position for support.

Then I lowered my saddle about 2cm and installed it pointing up a bit more 
than before. 

This got me wondering, are you supposed to lower the saddle when using 
sweptback bars? Since your position changes and you bend your upper body 
way less from when going from dropbars to more of a sitting position with 
sweptback bars.

It definitely feels better with the lower saddle but I'm still not as 
comfortable on this bike as I'm on my 58 Hunqapillar with Jones H Loop 
bars. 

What else would you try? Should I try to get my saddle further back and my 
handlebars even closer with a shorter stem? higher handlebars?  Are the 
orthos just too wide?

This whole fit thing is an enigma to me and I would love your thoughts.

Max

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