I’ve largely given up using padded liners since getting my B17 saddles on my two Riv’s. On the vast majority of rides ranging from 20-60 miles I am using merino boxers under a variety of cycling branded (Kitsbow, OrNot, Search & State) though not cycling specific shorts or pants. No comfort or other issues. I will still use a padded liner when I am doing a longer ride on fairly rowdy singletrack. However I have found I do not really need to. I often marvel that I can do a 20+ mile MTB trail with lots of roots & rocks on a B17 with no padding. I suspect it’s because I will “float” above the saddle through the rough stuff using my knees for suspension. My favorite merino boxer is from OrNot.
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On Jan 22, 2025, at 6:26 PM, Jay <[email protected]> wrote:

I was curious to get some views from those with leather saddles and whether you wear bib (padded) cycling shorts, underwear with shorts/pants.  If underwear; is it wool, synthetic, other; do you care about seam placement; tight/compression fit, loose; or do you not think about this at all (just ride in whatever)?

I recently ordered a Brooks Team Pro Special and would love to not have to wear padded bib shorts (despite having like 10 of them).  I'm certainly going to try riding with some synthetic compression long boxers (I have a few pair) and winter tights, as it's that time of year.  I'll also try with a few models of bib shorts I have.

Long rides on hot days are not always the best, for me, with bib shorts, due to chafing.  I rarely get actual saddle sores (not since switching to the C17).

When I started cycling over 20 years ago, after a couple years into it, I got a B17 saddle.  After some trial-error with set up, it was fairly comfortable.  I was always wearing bib shorts, but I still laugh at one time in the winter when after riding for two hours I realized I wasn't wearing bib shorts, just underwear and winter tights.  I later got a Brooks Swallow, and then for some reason switched to plastic saddles and only tried Brooks again in the last 18 months.  I tried a B17, twice maybe, and it seemed too large and impacted how I pedalled.  I then tried a C17, and it was pretty good in that I was well supported, pedalling was fine, and with padded shorts it has been the most comfortable saddles I've had in the last 10 years.  I want to see if I can eliminate chafing/sores and figured I would try the Team Pro Special (hoping the width/shape works better for me than B17; I'm rather skinny).

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