On Tuesday, February 4, 2025 at 2:02:34 PM UTC-7 Brian David Lewis-Jones 
wrote:


... When talking with Riv, they mentioned that bottom brackets for shipped 
framesets would be 110 - for a 45mm chainline. 

Fast forward, I didn’t think to measure it myself. But another thread 
recently had me second guessing… Sure enough, measured, and voila, 113!

So that answers a lot of my own questions on rough shifting! Next up, I’m 
trying my hand at a 47.5 Altus triple FD and expect it to be smooth as 
butter. And if not… well, I’ll certainly let ya know!


If a 110 spindle yields a 45mm chainline, then all other things being 
equal,  a 113 spindle would give you 46.5 - not 48.  Maybe you realized 
that, but it wasn't clear from your post.  I can't imagine that this is 
your issue, as long as you're within the range provided by the limit 
screws.  The longer chainstays on Rivendell bikes are more forgiving in 
terms of chainline variations.  It doesn't need to be perfectly in spec 
because the chain isn't being forced to flex as much between disparate 
chainring/ cog combinations.

On the other hand and if I'm visualizing correctly - you might be better 
off using any derailleur in the bottom/inner part  of it's allowable swing 
range, because the arc will be less "vertical" between adjacent 
chainrings.  But I guess it depends on the geometry of the specific 
derailleur - whether it's top swing, bottom swing, how long the arms are, 
etc.  If you're having trouble because the angle between the seat tube and 
chainstays is non-typical, and the chainstay is keeping you from mounting 
it as low as you like, then you're looking for something that moves 
side-to-side with the least amount of up-and-down.  Some pics could help us 
armchair a diagnosis a lot easier.

Other random thoughts:

Shimano made some "side-swing" derailleurs that had almost no vertical 
movement, that I've used for this precise chainstay clearance problem, but 
it was much more of an extreme combination of factors than you're dealing 
with.  Also, the cable routing is wonky.

A couple of years ago, Bill did a detailed post about shortening the shift 
cage so it would have more chainstay clearance.  Maybe he'll chime in or 
you can find that thread.

Lastly, Before spending a lot of time and money,  you might want to measure 
the actual chainline yourself, to know what you're working with:  measure 
from the center of the middle chainring to the face of the seat tube, and 
add half the seat tube diameter.

 

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