Jay,

Thanks for the compliment on the Atlantis, but I'm afraid you might be disappointed with your visit to Hawaii- I sold the Atlantis a while back to a nice fella in California. But you're more than welcome to try out my 90's Specialized Crossroads, my Ritchey Breakaway Cross, or my wife's Clem H. 

And Bill is correct- mine was the 2018 v2 56cm 650b Atlantis. Like Bill, I also owned a v1 58cm 700c Atlantis and agree that they're quite different animals. 

Looking at geometry charts, my 56cm Atlantis had a 59cm effective top tube. The current 55cm 2025 Atlantis has an effective top tube of 61cm, so it's much more predisposed for running upright handlebars. 

~Mark
Kailua, HI


On Feb 8, 2025, at 3:11 PM, Jay <[email protected]> wrote:

Past week or so I have been dreaming of a new Riv, like the Appaloosa or upcoming Atlantis, with drop bars.  Then I see the newsletter yesterday, and this thread today lol.  Will's bike didn't look very good, but Mark's Atlantis above looks perfect to me.  The proportions look really good.  If I went with an Atlantis with drop bars I would likely go down two sizes.  The top tube is so long!  I'm 5'11 and can't recall my PBH but when I sized my Roadini it was highly recommended I choose the 57, which I did, and while all is good and I love the bike, I have the Brooks C17 pushed all the way forward on a 0 offset seat post, a 70mm stem -17D, as low as the quill adaptor can go, and short reach bars.  I could have easily went down a size and had more space to move things around.  So, with an Atlantis, would make sense to go down a couple of sizes if using drop bars.  I don't think I'll pull the trigger though.  If I could visit Mark in Hawaii and test out his Atlantis, well that could change my mind! 

On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 5:25:55 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
I have a hunqapillar with a discord/analog fingerling stem and ritchey Corralitos short and shallow drop bar, and it's my favorite iteration of cockpits on this bike.  I feel the Corralitos are a total dark horse and should be in the conversation for Riv cockpits.  I love riv, but I'm more comfortable on drops, and I have never liked the single hand position found on most upright or alt bars.

On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 2:03:18 AM UTC-6 esoterica etc wrote:

Since the MIT Atlantis was lumped together with the list of models that are simply non-conducive to drop bars, I call poppycock.

My 650b MIT Atlantis was wonderful with Nitto Noodle bars. It came to me originally with Choco bars which were also wonderful, but at the time I already had another bike with a similar bar and no other geared bike with drop bars in my stable. So I put the Noodles on just out of curiosity thinking that it probably wouldn't stay on for long, but I ended up liking it better than the Chocos and kept it on until I ultimately sold the Atlantis.

You'll never know until you try, and I encourage y'all to experiment with your bikes just like Will is doing. Tinkering is half the fun!

~Mark
Kailua, HI

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