Leah,
On a group ride a few years ago, okay maybe 12 years ago, one of the guys 
brought his son along. His son was on a full suspension mountain bike and 
we were all on carbon road bikes.  He kept up with us pretty easily and 
rode a wheelie about half the time. We weren't pushing it by any means but 
it seems that youth always wins out. I do agree with you that wind is the 
ultimate speed killer and an upright position catches the wind like a sail. 
With drop bars in the drops you really can be out of the wind. When I had 
drop bars I would enjoy getting down into the drops now and then to stretch 
out my back. I don't remember any specific group rides in windy conditions 
but I have ridden in the wind many times solo. I would almost rather ride 
in the rain that wind...almost.
Doug

On Wednesday, May 14, 2025 at 7:01:10 PM UTC-4 ttoshi wrote:

> I can commiserate with high winds! For my Bosco bars, I place my hands on 
> the front of the handlebars near the stem and tuck down--not ideal for 
> pacelining because my brakes are at the end of the handlebar. On my 
> Albastache, it is wrapped, and I've placed my brake levers at the front, so 
> I can use the most aerodynamic option as the default. Don't give up on the 
> Charlie yet!
>
> Toshi
>
>

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