I was refuting the presumed — note — opinion that bar and rider position
don’t matter for riding against wind, not a Grantian text. If he didn’t
actually mean that, then my rebuttal was unneeded.

If Grant simply meant that you can ride upright and have fun, then I fully
agree, tho’ it would be harder in a 20 mph steady gusts to 28 mph headwind.

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 2:32 PM Richard Rose <[email protected]> wrote:

> Patrick wrote “Grand is wrong on this one.” Now I do not follow Grant’s
> writings all that closely but did he actually say that a very upright rider
> is not at a disadvantage to a more “aerodynamic” positioned rider into the
> wind? Or, did he say something more along the lines of “who cares?”.
> If it’s the latter what did he get wrong?
> Richard - used to ride long, fast pace lines. Doesn’t any more.
> Sent from my iPhone
>

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