Oh, mostly because they're gratuitously knobby for a pavement tire.  I 
don't have many miles on them so I can't comment on their suppleness - 
perhaps they're sublimely fast-rolling.  I find it hard to imagine they'd 
be better than a GK slick.  Or RH, if budget permits.  Or Schwalbe G-One.  
Really plenty of tires I'd choose above Cazaderos, partially because 
they're kind of rare and I could get a number of other tires more cheaply.

Will

On Friday, August 8, 2025 at 3:40:09 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Will: Please elaborate. Rolling resistance, or handling? I’ve contemplated 
> Cazaderos for combined dirt/pavement riding based on others’ opinions, and 
> my brother — quite experienced — likes them.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick Moore, whose Goldilocks allrounder tire would be the RH Oracle 
> Ridge, only, it doesn’t set up tubeless very well. Mean to try TPU tubes 
> and Orange Seal; perhaps that combo will be the Goldilocks solution for the 
> otherwise Goldilocks OR.
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2025 at 12:31 PM Will Boericke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Cazaderos would be far from my #1 choice for mainly pavement riding, 
>> though.
>>
>> W
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 6, 2025 at 8:06:05 PM UTC-4 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah
>>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Aug 2025, 03:01 Jeffery S, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have some 700 x 50mm Soma Cazaderos that are excellent. The raised 
>>>> center tread is good for pavement and the rest works well on dry 
>>>> trails/fire roads. Right now they measure 46mm on mavic A719s, 40psi.
>>>>
>>>> They’re kind of pricey but have lasted several years. Two flats that I 
>>>> can think of. One from a chunk of glass and the second was a gnarly goat 
>>>> head. Hopefully I don’t jinx myself.
>>>>
>>>> This fall I’m planning to put some fenders on and try the 42mm version.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2025 at 1:10:31 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been riding 700x50 Gravelkings tubeless on my Atlantis. Velocity 
>>>>> Cliffhanger rims. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been riding mainly long distances on pavement and the center 
>>>>> ridges are getting fairly worn and I'm beginning to deal with pinhole 
>>>>> leaks. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps it's time to go to something svelter, tubeless or not. 
>>>>> Schwalbe Marathon 45?
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone has an opinion on this sort of thing. Let 'em rip!
>>>>>
>>>>> smm
>>>>>
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