If she can find one, a 55cm Cheviot is lighter duty than a Platy and still 
uses 135mm spacing 650b wheels, but you would need new brakes and probably 
brake levers, because it takes long reach side pull instead of V brakes. 


On Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 3:15:17 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:

> thanks for this note, Ant, but we'll keep it open to either of those 
> models, for the rest of the group. 
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 4:21 AM Ant Warland <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I may be half a degree or so off with those head tube angles, but looking 
>> at the few years' pre August '24 geo tables, the 55 platypus has had 1.5 
>> degrees less than the 51 Joes.
>> On Tuesday, 2 September 2025 at 08:21:38 UTC+1 Ant Warland wrote:
>>
>>> Re: Platypuses, I'd argue they've been more trail-oriented than your 
>>> wife's 2021 Joe for at least a few years. Same tyre clearance and similar 
>>> chainstay length but a slacker head tube angle (72 Joe vs 70 platypus) and 
>>> a lower top tube. And as for weight I suspect given the extra stay, a 55 cm 
>>> Platy would actually be heavier.
>>>
>>> A Sam or a Homer would hit the brief of 'a little less trail oriented'. 
>>> A Gallop would probably live in the 'predominantly tarmac riding' category 
>>> in my opinion.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> Ant
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 2 September 2025 at 00:21:06 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, all -- I'm looking to trade my wife's 2021 Joe App size 51 (built 
>>>> by Analog, in Vt.) for a 55 Platypus or a 53 Gallop. It's a great bike but 
>>>> it's a bit heavier and little more trail-oriented than she really needs. 
>>>> Happy to provide more details/pics if anyone is interested. We're in 
>>>> Boston. The ideal trade would be with someone in New England -- I'd go 
>>>> pretty much anywhere -- but open to shipping. Thanks!
>>>>
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