Thomas, Oh, I failed to understand that you were originally inquiring *if such a thing even existed**!! *
I know Bill has already confirmed that, but most definitely yes. I purchased a 60mm extension 25.4 clamp/225mm quill stem directly from RBW just about a year ago (Sept 16 2024 per the order confirmation email. Price was $128 before taxes). Confusingly, they have the same model number as the 31.8mm models (CR60-3T). Hopefully Riv/Nitto bring them back at some point, but who knows?? I have mine on a '88 or '89 Ritchey Outback that is probably too small for me. I'm using 155 mm of the 225 to get the bars up to seat height. It is just about nearly perfect :) My more recent rabbit hole is a cockpit redo for my wife's Platypus. I originally wanted a 26mm clamp faceplatter, but ended up going with a 31.8mm bar/clamp that I think will be great. But definitely would like to see 25.4/26mm models still in production. On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 2:21:07 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > Hi, Bill. Understood. I used "bar swap" to mean "cockpit swap" in that > sense. Face plater stems basically open the possibility of cockpits without > each having a dedicated stem. And without greatly complicating a swap. I've > not pursued swapping stems, though I can certainly see why one might. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 3:52:36 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> "and just as magically allows me to swap bars without deconstructing one >> half of my haphazard-yet-beautiful-to-me efforts" >> >> Bar swaps essentially ALWAYS involve deconstructing. It's easy STEM >> SWAPS that are enabled by face plate stems. You take apart one half of >> your BAR setup when you need to swap the STEM, not when you swap the BAR. >> You don't necessarily need to take apart anything if you do a full COCKPIT >> swap, changing out everything including bar/stem/controls/etc. >> >> BL in EC >> On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 1:28:59 PM UTC-7 >> [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Mr. Lindsay: Interesting. With the knowledge that my hoped-for stem >>> exists, even if so far only on a RoadUno, the search for actually acquiring >>> one for significantly less than $2300 can continue. It may warrant a chat >>> with someone at Rivendell. I do hate to bother them, though. I don't want >>> to distract them from doing whatever they do to make available those lovely >>> Sackvilles, Silver cranks, properly-prepared-and-packed Platypi, low-normal >>> derailers, etc. >>> >>> As of now, I'm not *too* unhappy with my compromise: a 225mm MTC-024 >>> adapter with a UI-2 stem attached. Even with this Goldbergian abuse, >>> Nitto's decent sense of "how things should be" shines through. It doesn't >>> look half bad. >>> >>> Of course, it's all a compromise. What I *really* want is a Tallux, >>> appearing just as the thing of beauty it is, that magically raises/lowers >>> the bar as I desire and just as magically allows me to swap bars without >>> deconstructing one half of my haphazard-yet-beautiful-to-me efforts at >>> creating yet another appealing interface to my bicycle. I know this defies >>> the laws of physics, but, you see, ... >>> >>> Yours, >>> Thomas Lynn Skean >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 1:13:09 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>>> This might be outside of your preferred way to transact business, but >>>> note that the Rivendell RoadUno complete comes with a very tall Nitto >>>> Faceplate stem, with a 25.4mm clamp, on a frame with a gargantuan tall >>>> stack. In other words, even with the stem slammed it's still a pretty >>>> bolt >>>> upright fit. Therefore, very few people with a RoadUno need that stem, >>>> unless they just like the look, like "keeping it stock" or want to be stem >>>> swappers. The idea is maybe you could shake one loose with an offer they >>>> can't refuse. I volunteered to give away the stem off my RoadUno complete >>>> to help close a deal in a large parts swap, and that allowed me to put in >>>> a >>>> lighter Nitto-Ritchey stem that I think looks better and makes the bike >>>> more "me". Maybe you could coax somebody into a similar deal, with a >>>> concrete offer. Heck, maybe somebody out there is looking at those last >>>> two remaining 58cm Purple that are scratched and is waiting for a bigger >>>> discount than $100. You could buy their stem and help them buy a bike >>>> from >>>> Riv. >>>> >>>> The point is, the stem exists. You'd just have to be determined to get >>>> your hands on it. If you buy a 58cm RoadUno complete for $2300 and take >>>> the steam out of the box, that's one way to do it. There are probably a >>>> bunch of other ways that cost you less than $2300. >>>> >>>> Bill Lindsay >>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 10:50:29 AM UTC-7 >>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Will. >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, I thought about that. I've had bad experiences with risers, >>>>> steel and aluminum. I wish I could trust them. But even though I never >>>>> have >>>>> and likely never will "mountain bike", I won't go that route. The search >>>>> continues. >>>>> >>>>> Yours, >>>>> Thomas Lynn Skean >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 12:43:43 PM UTC-5 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I wonder if you could make a steel quill riser do the job? I know >>>>>> that traditional swept back bars in the extreme iteration that is >>>>>> fashionable on Rivs put a lot of torsional stress on that clamp, but >>>>>> steel >>>>>> might solve it. I have an older steel quill riser on my wife's bike >>>>>> with >>>>>> swept back bars that is rock solid, even on rocky singletrack. >>>>>> >>>>>> Will >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 1:18:52 PM UTC-4 Ben Miller wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thomas, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recently went down the FacePlater rabbit hole, and pickings are >>>>>>> slim at the moment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Crust bikes does have the Nitto UI quill stem >>>>>>> <https://crustbikes.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-x-crust-ui-stem?variant=32943527493722> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in stock: 26mm clamp, 15 or 30 deg rise.... but only in black >>>>>>> currently. >>>>>>> Also not quite 225 mm in length (185 mm). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blue Lug has the Nitto UI-2 quill stem >>>>>>> <https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-ui-2-cr-mo-thread-stem-sil.html>: >>>>>>> 26 mm clamp, 0 degree rise and much shorter length (137 mm max for the >>>>>>> longer extensions). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That all I was able to find currently for new stems. Might be able >>>>>>> to find some of the out-of-stock ones here or there?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 9:24:13 AM UTC-7 >>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone heard of a 25.4mm or 26.0mm bar clamp version of the tig >>>>>>>> face plater? I *really really want* the up-angle and the 225mm >>>>>>>> quill length of the tig face plater. I also like its relatively clean >>>>>>>> look. >>>>>>>> I just don't want a 31.8mm bar clamp area. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yours, >>>>>>>> Thomas Lynn Skean >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0afcc033-23f1-4939-b156-c03be8965516n%40googlegroups.com.
