Can't recommend it enough. I kinda want a full campy bike now... but it's 
great. Takes some patience on set up but now it works very well. There's 
another thread I started here with a lot of good information from fellow 
listers.

On Friday, September 5, 2025 at 6:17:23 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:

> Shimergo! How's that going? That is my next project ...
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2025 at 2:48 PM Bryan Dalik <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>   [image: B297F9C1-EBD2-442D-AFBD-86716047FD57-1827-000000D112D811A3.JPG]
>>
>> If we're sharing photos of old/new Rams, here is mine - got it from a guy 
>> out in Oregon. Originally had 25s on there and was much more road oriented. 
>> Turned it into my "country road" bike and fit 38s. This thing rules.
>>
>> On Friday, September 5, 2025 at 2:02:29 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> I own one of those early orange Rams and I've often wondered about the 
>>> paint scheme that was used.  Some say that "House of Kolor" Nova Orange 
>>> base coat was followed by HOK Spanish Gold clear coat and all of that 
>>> painting of those early Rambouillet frames was done by Joe Bell.  But as 
>>> far as anyone has been to admit over the past couple of decades, none of 
>>> these things may or may not be accurate.  Nevertheless, it is an 
>>> extraordinary color that simply can't be duplicated by any usual OTC 
>>> touch-up paints. If someone owns one of these early "orange" frames and 
>>> really likes the color I'd recommend doing everything possible (fenders, 
>>> front mud flap, right chain stay guard (e.g., helicopter tape)) to protect 
>>> the frame paint from being damaged. OTOH, if you're a friend of the 
>>> over-the-top "beasuage" society, ride the bike however you wish and just 
>>> live with the consequences. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 5, 2025 at 7:19:49 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
>>>> Orange was the premier series color done by Joe Bell.
>>>>
>>>> I rode the 33.3 Ruffy Tuffy/Roly Poly combo with SKS fenders when new, 
>>>> tried (and fit) 38s without fenders, and found them beyond the design 
>>>> intent and poorer handling than the 32 or 28s. 
>>>>
>>>> This is a bigger frame size, so maybe clearance issues existed in 
>>>> smaller sizes where geometry was closer to being violated if clearance was 
>>>> given a greater value.  I enjoy having three cage mounts, unsure if all 
>>>> sizes could fit them.
>>>>
>>>> Long settled with Stampede Pass ELs and Honjos in the Racers as 
>>>> pictured.
>>>>
>>>> Andy Cheatham
>>>> Pitttsburgh
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, September 4, 2025 at 9:24:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Were the orange Rams the first edition, the blues the second? Did the 
>>>>> blues take slightly wider tires? My blue took ~33s (1.35” Kojaks on 
>>>>> MA40s) 
>>>>> with SKS fenders, tho’ not a huge amount of air in between. But all that 
>>>>> said, I do like the orange color better than the blue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very pretty and a nice setup.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 6:27 PM ascpgh <[email protected]> wrote:… I'm 
>>>>> still on my (big) orangesicle Rambouillet and ride it all over the place. 
>>>>> Same old, same old for bars, shifters, and derailleurs. Paul Racers are 
>>>>> "new". 
>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: 07106430-C32F-4C0E-A285-A0D9F4D95632_1_105_c.jpeg] [image: 
>>>>>> 1BA71749-6A21-4C4D-A30F-78046D1C707F_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>>>>>
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