Hi Stephen,

I recently watched a talk by the creator of cycle.travel Richard 
Fairhurst where he explains at length how it works. It has a few different 
plotting modes but generally speaking It priorities quiet lanes with scenic 
views. He admits that sometimes this means you end up doing a little more 
climbing than you would otherwise but that is (at least in my experience) 
where the best views are!

https://youtu.be/MB-Rvt5qBFo?si=FcSZW0Q_FHD1_L1r
The whole video is worth watching but the bits about how the algorithm uses 
scenery data are at 18:00 and 52:45.

It also allows you to check the scenery using Google street view and a 
trail view feature I forget the name of.

Happy riding,
Ant





On Sunday, 14 September 2025 at 05:02:10 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:

> In the old days you'd get a copy of the appropriate Michelin maps and 
> there'd be highlights along the routes that indicate that the road is 
> scenic (green highlight for Michelin maps, purple for Kummerly+Frey). 
> There's also a very nice cheat code that I've used successfully in the 
> past, which is to contact the local touring club in the area and ask (I 
> know you mentioned local cycling clubs only publishing group ride routes 
> --- but those are usually not touring clubs). They usually have lots of 
> rides in their ride database or worse comes to worse you can find someone 
> who's led rides who can share their GPS tracks with you.
>
> For various places I've discovered that certain people (e.g., the late 
> Jobst Brandt) write detailed trip reports that reward careful reading and 
> hence allow me to find "new to me" scenic routes that have ideal conditions 
> for riding (e.g., shade or tailwinds in the afternoon, amazing descents, 
> great places to eat or stay). By and large though most people aren't very 
> good at writing good trip reports. And I've discovered that on certain 
> websites they will post pictures of their bicycle tour only to tell me when 
> I ask about their routes that because they paid someone to design their 
> route they couldn't share their routes, which flabbergasted me, coming from 
> the old school "share and share alike" ethic towards touring knowledge and 
> route sharing.
>
> For foreign countries my favorite go-to are the Rough Stuff Fellowship and 
> Cyclists Touring Club (CTC) in England. Those clubs have been all over the 
> world and have very good routes and are very happy to share for the price 
> of membership (which years ago was only about $30/year). The OCD cycle 
> touring club also has excellent guides to the Alps whose suggestions are 
> never wrong.
>
> I'll plug my book: Independent Cycle Touring (https://amzn.to/46Bc1EC) 
> which has an entire chapter devoted to route design and map reading for 
> bicycle touring. In these days of GPS and Google Maps nobody's buying that 
> book but you may find it helpful even though it's filled with maps of 
> places you'll never go.
>
> On Saturday, September 13, 2025 at 3:01:47 PM UTC-7 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for things like: tree cover, natural beauty, rolling hills, 
>> country roads and stops along the way for great snacks/coffee/adventures. 
>>
>> RideWithGPS and Strava don't have a filter/metric for *scenic*. 
>> Heatmaps only tell you a route is trafficked, not the *quality*.
>> Local cycling clubs only publish group ride routes (not what I'm after).
>>
>> What's worked for me so far is sticking to dedicated cycling paths, using 
>> google earth on RideWithGPS and my local knowledge of fun stops - but this 
>> seems hard to replicate outside of your own city.
>>
>> I'd love to ride in an adjacent town or take a trip a few hours away for 
>> a fun ride, but I haven't found a resource that's big, searchable list of 
>> *scenic* rides across the US or globe.
>>
>> RideWithGPS offers Ride Reports <https://ridewithgps.com/ride_reports>. 
>> This feels *almost* what I'm looking for except there's no way to filter 
>> by location, length or type of ride.
>>
>> Has anyone found a better option?
>>
>> - Stephen in Dallas
>>
>

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