Thanks everyone, some really good stuff here! We did a 25 km city loop 
today, and yeah, the reach on the Wild Honey bars is a problem.

Zach, I didn't know about those Griterium bars. That's definitely an 
interesting option. I basically did the measurements you suggested.... but 
I measured from the tip of the saddle to the stem clamp. I then took into 
account the extra width so the stem clamp is actually a bit closer than her 
other bikes. What I did not do is take into account the longer reach of the 
Wild Honey.... Again, I prefer long reach drop bars, so that seemed right 
to me! Opps... I think just getting the reach in the 65-75 mm range would 
do the trick.

Capt. Conway, Those Ritchey Corralitos would be prefect, but she is pretty 
adamant about the bars being silver, and I agree with that aesthetic 
choice. But such an interesting bar... almost tempted to break out the lye 
and remove the black anodizing... almost... Would love to see pics of your 
drop bar Hunq!

Garth, those Skylines do look nice, but I sort of want to get her to try 
some wider bars. She did like the Wild Honey's 510 mm width, just felt the 
reach was too long. I think 440 mm width with 80 reach might not be the 
right move for this build. Though, now I'm thinking about trying them out 
for her on her Kona road bike (which currently has bars that are way too 
narrow for her). 

Thanks y'all again. I'm currently deciding between the Soma Griterium and 
the PNW Coast Gen 2. The PNW bar has 10 mm less reach and 20 mm drop. And 
it's also less expensive (even with the 15% off). And it's available in 
wide sizes... Will consult Stephanie and report back with what we decide.

On Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 2:14:13 PM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:

> Those Skyline bars look a lot like the BioMax bars that they used to make. 
> If I hadn't been told what they were I would've been tempted to think that 
> they were BioMax.  Must be the successor product.  And I agree with you 
> about the advantages of bars like that - they allow you set everything up 
> to your best advantage.
>
> On Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 1:49:31 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> I've been using some Zipp drop bars too. XPLR 70 and an Ergo 80. I also 
>> really like the Ritchey Skyline bar, it's black but I don't care as the 
>> shape is divine, I think I like it just a bit better than the Zipp Ergo 80. 
>> I liked the outward sweep of the XLPR initially, then I didn't. The more 
>> straight Ergo series and Ritchey Skyline are just right to keep the elbows 
>> in and able to bend properly. The angled drop portion of the Ritchey took 
>> me a while to figure how to set the angle. Unlike regular drop bars, I have 
>> the angle set for climbing out of the saddle. which puts the very ends 
>> almost level. Don't let my attached photo of my Bomba fool you about the 
>> bar, it's a130mm stem and I have 44cm bars. The smaller sized Skyline has 
>> less drop and reach. see below.
>>
>> In the drops the Skyline just feels so right once you figure out the 
>> angle. 
>> D
>> on't be afraid to go outside the limiting boxes of "has to be silver, 
>> 25.4 bars/stems, must be Nitto, or boutique branded bars/stems, etc.". 
>>
>> Looking at Ben's wifes bike, it just needs some short reach bars. I 
>> stumbled upon the Zipps looking at the large variety of bars for 
>> bikepacking. https://bikepacking.com/index/gravel-bars/
>> Not really a fan of any of them, but they gave me an idea of 
>> possibilities I had not been aware of. Then I realized Zipp makes some 
>> others without the sweep(Ergo and even classic), and Ritchey came out with 
>> the Skyline bar, which is sized proportionately. The 44cm has 80mm reach 
>> and 125mm drop, going down to the 40mm bar has 115mm drop and 70mm reach. 
>>
>> https://ritcheylogic.com/bike/handlebars/comp-skyline-handlebar
>>
>>

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