Merry Sales was showing off a new front derailleur at the MADE show and specifically mentioned Rivendell testing them out in their clip with Path Less Pedaled. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp19IGyL_HM&t=53s
On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 6:34:32 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote: > I'm glad that they are making this RD, but honestly, I think a good 2x > capable FD would be of more use to me. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited for > both, but I find it harder to find good quality (and good-looking) 2x FDs. > I'd have to go back to the archives and see if they are planning for that > FD to be 3x or 2x. > > On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 10:36:10 PM UTC-4 Steve wrote: > >> Shannon, what I experienced by exceeding the capacity of the derailleur >> was an inability to shift out of the big ring- big cog combo -- the chain >> was overly taunt; the hub continued to freewheel, no drama resulted >> Fortunately the derailleur survived the ordeal . ;-). It sounds like >> you maybe dropped the chain inboard and locked up the rear hub or the >> cranks?? >> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 10:13:07 PM UTC-4 Shannon Menkveld wrote: >> >>> The one you were fortunate not to have, although I was also kinda joking. >>> >>> I've done it, while pedaling pretty hard. Luckily, it was uphill on a >>> mountain bike, so I wasn't going very fast. >>> >>> I still crashed instantaneously. I just didn't get hurt much. >>> >>> --Shannon >>> On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 7:57:14 AM UTC-7 Steve wrote: >>> >>>> What crash? >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 10:46:09 PM UTC-4 Shannon Menkveld >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> How badly were you and the bike hurt in the crash? >>>>> >>>>> --Shannon >>>>> On Monday, September 1, 2025 at 7:56:07 PM UTC-7 Steve wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Shannon, I like your advice. Indeed, now that I think about it, the >>>>>> current 3x drive train runs a bit slack in the 24 x 11 combination. I >>>>>> will confess though to having been "bone headed" enough to once seize a >>>>>> derailleur in the big x big position -- which taught me to check the >>>>>> chain in that position when setting up a new drivetrain. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, September 1, 2025 at 9:17:52 PM UTC-4 Shannon Menkveld >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Exceeding chain wrap on a derailleur isn't a big deal. The worst >>>>>>> that can happen is that you upshift into a too-small cog on the granny >>>>>>> ring, the chain goes slack and makes hella noise, and you shift the >>>>>>> front >>>>>>> and feel like a moron. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My 1985 League Fuji is set up 45/42/30 x 14-16-18-20-23-26... with a >>>>>>> 1980 Suntour Superbe that's spec'd at 23t of chain wrap and a 23t max >>>>>>> cog. >>>>>>> Other than the shift up from the granny, which needs to be done nicely >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> slowly, (but when was the last time you needed to shift up off the >>>>>>> granny *right >>>>>>> fringgin' now!!*,) with the Riv Silver 1 shifters on the downtube, >>>>>>> it shifts better than I do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As long as your derailleur can handle it when you boneheadedly try >>>>>>> to downshift to the bottom cog on the big ring without locking up your >>>>>>> drivetrain and making you crash so fast that time won't have time to >>>>>>> slow >>>>>>> down before you hit. (I guess that's possible going the other way, if >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> got the chain so slack, under so much pedal force and speed as to wrap >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> around the bottom bracket like a fishing reel, but any situation where >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> can imagine that happening would be really really weird...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tl;dr: I'd Just Do It (tm). It'll almost certainly work, and if it >>>>>>> doesn't, you'll just hate it and do something different, so no harm >>>>>>> done. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --Shannon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, September 1, 2025 at 4:16:06 PM UTC-7 Steve wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Eric. Another group member tipped me off to this photo from >>>>>>>> the article, but I couldn't quite make it out. Looking at it now I >>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>> you've deciphered it. If this is the final capacity - and I'm >>>>>>>> guessing it >>>>>>>> is if Riv went to the expense of having the boxes printed - the >>>>>>>> current 3x >>>>>>>> drivetrain on my Platypus will exceed its specified max chain wrap. I >>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>> have to wait for the Sam Hillborne I've been contemplating for my next >>>>>>>> birthday. If I hear anything different from the inquiry I finally >>>>>>>> sent >>>>>>>> Will at RBW, I'll share it here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve in AVL. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, September 1, 2025 at 1:46:03 PM UTC-4 Eric wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you zoom in on this photo from Eben Weiss' Outside article >>>>>>>>> <https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/bikes-and-biking/rivendell-bikes-rear-derailleur/>, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> you might be able to make something out through the jpeg haze. >>>>>>>>> [image: image.jpeg] >>>>>>>>> I think I'm reading Biggest cog of 36T (with friction shifter) and >>>>>>>>> 34T (with index shifter) and a Chain wrap of 39T. The largest >>>>>>>>> cassette cog >>>>>>>>> numbers sound about what I'd expect, but I have no point of reference >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> chain wrap. So, I'll let someone else jump in as to whether that >>>>>>>>> number >>>>>>>>> makes any sense. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course, all of this is prototypey and, I assume, subject to >>>>>>>>> yaddayaddayadda... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>>>> SF, CA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c0304736-a918-4759-97c4-1fa1979c4feen%40googlegroups.com.
