@ Jim S:
Short answer: +1 for Jason's "same stem as drops is a very good starting
place."
Longer answer: I may also depend on how horizontal (closer to you) vs.
"downward sloping" (longer reach) you want to run the bar ends. The advice
of the good people at Riv ("We recommend a stuffy stem. Try a 5cm to 8cm
max") is a little misleading 'cuz it's absolute and not relative to what
stem is good for your drop bars. I regretted this advice when I swapped
Noodle + 100mm Technomic --> Albastache + 80mm Tallux. Moving the clamp
20mm closer put the bars too close. (imagine in Ben's most recent WhatBars
screenshot sliding the Albastache clamp 20mm behind the Noodle's). I ended
up moving the Albastache's forward with a longer-reach stem, and moving the
saddle a back with a longer setback. Cheers. Will M in NY
On Monday, October 13, 2025 at 12:51:31 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
> Rivendell unearthed a box of New Old Stock Moustache bars! That's a
> unique opportunity to get retro-weird!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, October 13, 2025 at 9:29:57 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I think the most forward "in the drops" position gets used more often on
>> 'stache than on drop bars, hen e the need for a slightly shorter stem.
>>
>> On Monday, October 13, 2025 at 8:06:32 AM UTC-7 Zachary Cannon wrote:
>>
>>> I love what bars but I feel experientially (without any other evidence)
>>> that the relationship to moustache bars (both og and albastache) is such
>>> that they'll feel better with a slightly shorter stem than a noodle. OG
>>> moustaches needed even more.
>>> I like the idea of starting with what you have but I predict you'll want
>>> to go shorter.
>>> I speculate this has something to do with how all the positions
>>> interface and the position I take on the hoods of a moustache (elbows very
>>> bent and tucked in and narrow almost like on aerobars) vs in the drops. In
>>> fact, maybe that's the analog: how much better aero bars and Jones work
>>> with a short reach and high stack.
>>> Good luck! Zach in ABQ who loves the love of moustache bars (not
>>> moustaches themselves) but finds them hard to dial in.
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 13, 2025 at 7:25:28 AM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> More reach out on the noodle bars, but with the flat orientation of the
>>>> brake a person can extend over the front with more comfort than with the
>>>> noodle oriented levers. Might make a difference depending on your feels.
>>>> Starting with what you’ve got as far as stems is always a good path. The
>>>> newer albastaches are 25.4 I think? That makes stem swapping easier. My
>>>> oldies are 26.0…
>>>> -Kai
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 13, 2025 at 2:15:00 AM UTC-4 Ben Miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here ya go. 90% sure this is right
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: 1000002466.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, October 12, 2025 at 11:11:00 PM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Enh, I probably had too much wine celebrating my anniversary with my
>>>>>> wife. That's why I said "check out Whatbars," Both are one there. I
>>>>>> probably selected the albatross. But the reach of a noodle is definitely
>>>>>> longer than an albastache.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben still drinking whiskey in SF celebrating 1 year with his wife
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, October 12, 2025 at 11:04:31 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's not an Albastache, looks like an Albatross or Billie. Drop
>>>>>>> and 'stache generally use the same stem, in my case I actually needed
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> shorter and raised higher than a Noodle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, October 12, 2025 at 10:43:06 PM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Check it out on Whatbars <https://whatbars.com/>. You're
>>>>>>>> definitely going to want a longer stem if you expect to have similar
>>>>>>>> hand
>>>>>>>> placement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: 1000002465.png]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, October 12, 2025 at 5:21:28 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My experience with the Albastache is that the same stem as drops
>>>>>>>>> is a very good starting place, and probably you'll be happy with it.
>>>>>>>>> Holding the bar near the ends is a lot like riding the 'flats' of the
>>>>>>>>> Noodle bar in terms of reach, but with the benefit of more width.
>>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>> hands in the 'front' of the Albastache is pretty close to being in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> hoods, from my recollection.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you ride in the drops more often than I do, maybe a slightly
>>>>>>>>> longer stem will end up being preferred, but I'd say run the stem you
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> first!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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