Lovely bikes!  Thank you for sharing.

Cal, what front bag is on your Ram?

--Joyce


On Tuesday, October 21, 2025 at 12:02:41 PM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote:

> Bryan, thanks for the kind words and sharing a photo of your Ram. That's a 
> finely curated build right there. Agree that the Steilacoom's look great!
>
> Yeah, that style light mount can be tricky with certain headsets. I think 
> the Tange caged BB headset that came with the frame has just enough 
> clearance to play nice with the mount. But I know other headsets that are a 
> bit bulkier that I had issues. I think I used a spacer washer on one to get 
> the mount to clear the headset. 
>
> On Sunday, October 19, 2025 at 1:04:55 PM UTC-7 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> Those Steilacooms look good, Bryan!
>> On Saturday, October 18, 2025 at 1:22:53 PM UTC-7 Bryan Dalik wrote:
>>
>>> Ben what a perfect build that is - i'll attach a photo of mine as well 
>>> as it's been very very fun to make this frame into a true "country bike". 
>>> Quick question for you - I have the same light mount on the fork crown and 
>>> it's a matter of millimeters to get the light mount into that position 
>>> without rubbing the tire or the bottom of the headset. Do you have the same 
>>> extremely tight clearance? Trying to see if I can get that to be a little 
>>> more easy of a fit. Seeing your deeper setback seatpost was a lightbulb for 
>>> me too as I feel I'm a bit tight in terms of reach on mine. Hoping 30mm 
>>> setback will do the trick.
>>>
>>> Bryan
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 17, 2025 at 4:03:46 PM UTC-4 Ben Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cal,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for sharing such a gorgeous Ram build! Ritchey Logic cranks, 
>>>> centerpull brakes, front and rear dynamo lights, plump Ultradynamico 
>>>> tyres, 
>>>> and a big handlebar bag! Build after my own heart. Do you have some 
>>>> support 
>>>> to keep the bag off the front brake cable? I hacked together something 
>>>> from 
>>>> a Gilles Berthoud decaleur, but it's not perfect and still my bag 
>>>> interfers 
>>>> with the front light a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Below is how my Ram looks currently. The drivetrain changed almost 
>>>> completely. I rode it yesterday after seeing your post. It is such a great 
>>>> ride. And I believe I saw a fellow Rabouiletter out on the new SF Sunset 
>>>> Dune's park. Almost as cool as that Rivendell St sign ;)
>>>>
>>>> [image: PXL_20240713_012533835~2.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, October 16, 2025 at 1:35:32 PM UTC-7 Cal Patterson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I see that this is an old thread but I wanted to contribute my Ram 
>>>>> which is also a 64 and also green.  I've got 650b wheels on it and 48 
>>>>> tires 
>>>>> that barely fit (crimped the chainstay a smidge). 2x8 shifting, 44/28 in 
>>>>> the front and an 8 speed XT in the back, 12-28 maybe?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, February 20, 2021 at 8:57:25 PM UTC-8 Ben Miller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A couple folks commented on my workbench, thanks! I got it partially 
>>>>>> restored from a friend, but now it's mostly used as a table. Attached is 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> photo of it in front of the workbench I built and use as such. A modern 
>>>>>> take on the french Roubo workbench. Makes for a more cluttered photo, 
>>>>>> but 
>>>>>> oh well. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as the bike, I wrapped the handlebars in leather sewn wraps I 
>>>>>> got from Walnut Studiolo. I also put on some MKS/Simworks Bubbly Bronze 
>>>>>> pedals. Both the wrap and the pedals look super nice to me, really 
>>>>>> completes the look. The pedals are amazing, so smooth and love the wide 
>>>>>> platform. The wraps seem good so far, though I normally like a thicker 
>>>>>> one. 
>>>>>> I also shortened the brake cables, per Mark's suggestion. And I was 
>>>>>> having 
>>>>>> some shifter issues if the Silver DT's (as noted on another recent 
>>>>>> thread). 
>>>>>> I removed them and packed them with teflon grease which seems to be a 
>>>>>> big 
>>>>>> improvement. Overall I am really loving this build! This bike just 
>>>>>> disappears under you in the best possible way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also including a photo at sunset on Twin Peaks in SF tonight, you 
>>>>>> can't really see the Ram all that much, but that is okay cause it is a 
>>>>>> beautiful photo. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 6:11:13 PM UTC-8 Jay LePree wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks very much for the information.  I started researching 
>>>>>>> painters in my area, and was surprised to find how many autobody shops 
>>>>>>> will 
>>>>>>> paint bicycles on the side.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best to you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jay LePree
>>>>>>> Demarest, NJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 7:23:17 PM UTC-5 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jay:  I had mine painted in Pelham AL by Nathan Barnes (
>>>>>>>> https://www.instagram.com/nate_barnes81/).  He paints cars and 
>>>>>>>> motorcycles during the week, bicycles (and sometimes plane parts) on 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> weekend.  I think he does great work and he is very reasonable in 
>>>>>>>> cost. I 
>>>>>>>> have a PDF of the decals and had them made by a decal shop in MS. It 
>>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>>> pretty reasonable and there are two clear coats over them on my bike. 
>>>>>>>> My 
>>>>>>>> color is actually a past Ford Mustang color called Autumn Gold. I 
>>>>>>>> didn't 
>>>>>>>> like it on the cars but I think it's very nice on the bicycle. The 
>>>>>>>> cream is 
>>>>>>>> standard RBW same as came on the bike. Msg me if you want more info on 
>>>>>>>> decals.  I've helped someone else here on the list as well, but am 
>>>>>>>> getting 
>>>>>>>> old and forgetful so I couldn't say who. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the Old Slow Guy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:17:23 AM UTC-6 Jay LePree wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ben:  That is beautiful.  I have one of the last orange white 54 
>>>>>>>>> cm that we sold.  (I purchased it in 2003).  I have been looking for 
>>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>>> painter.  Where did you have your bike painted?  How did you get the 
>>>>>>>>> new 
>>>>>>>>> decals?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jay
>>>>>>>>> Demarest, NJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:31:58 PM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Fellow RBW Owners,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, 
>>>>>>>>>> now that it is actually taking form.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have 
>>>>>>>>>> built up four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up 
>>>>>>>>>> to be a 
>>>>>>>>>> truly unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back 
>>>>>>>>>> in late 
>>>>>>>>>> 2017 with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. 
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly 
>>>>>>>>>> after 
>>>>>>>>>> that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 
>>>>>>>>>> 6 
>>>>>>>>>> months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly 
>>>>>>>>>> collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but 
>>>>>>>>>> definitely a 
>>>>>>>>>> bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently 
>>>>>>>>>> acquired. 
>>>>>>>>>> During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that 
>>>>>>>>>> eventually 
>>>>>>>>>> coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green 
>>>>>>>>>> with a bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint 
>>>>>>>>>> chips 
>>>>>>>>>> on the non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. 
>>>>>>>>>> It was 
>>>>>>>>>> included with a Tange headset.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand 
>>>>>>>>>> new components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I 
>>>>>>>>>> think these 
>>>>>>>>>> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new 
>>>>>>>>>> or 
>>>>>>>>>> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is 
>>>>>>>>>> really to 
>>>>>>>>>> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also 
>>>>>>>>>> fun and 
>>>>>>>>>> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but 
>>>>>>>>>> this is 
>>>>>>>>>> my first time executing it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT 
>>>>>>>>>> friction shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. 
>>>>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>>>>> Duopar was originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released 
>>>>>>>>>> in 
>>>>>>>>>> 1981. These 40 year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 
>>>>>>>>>> speed 
>>>>>>>>>> freewheel, but through the magic of friction shifting and a little 
>>>>>>>>>> finessing, seem to work just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big 
>>>>>>>>>> thing 
>>>>>>>>>> about the Duopar is it was one of first (perhaps the first?) 
>>>>>>>>>> derailluer to 
>>>>>>>>>> handle up to a 36t cog and 40 teeth of chainwrap. My understanding 
>>>>>>>>>> is that 
>>>>>>>>>> these RD’s are slightly controversial in terms of either loving or 
>>>>>>>>>> hating 
>>>>>>>>>> them (lots is said about their maintenance issues), but part of this 
>>>>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>>>>> trying to find out for myself. As I am just starting to learn about 
>>>>>>>>>> these 
>>>>>>>>>> derailleurs, it’d be nice to hear from others about their experience!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar 
>>>>>>>>>> dialed in and shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver 
>>>>>>>>>> DT 
>>>>>>>>>> shifters and paired with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. 
>>>>>>>>>> Today I 
>>>>>>>>>> finished mounting a pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a 
>>>>>>>>>> list 
>>>>>>>>>> member and got strung together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off 
>>>>>>>>>> eBay. 
>>>>>>>>>> These are mounted on the Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), 
>>>>>>>>>> which is 
>>>>>>>>>> so far the only brand new part on this build besides the Velo Orange 
>>>>>>>>>> seatpost (I did have a vintage seatpost I had been planning on 
>>>>>>>>>> using, but 
>>>>>>>>>> the mounting plates have a lot of corrosion that is preventing them 
>>>>>>>>>> from 
>>>>>>>>>> providing a tight hold). With brakes on and functional, I was able 
>>>>>>>>>> to take 
>>>>>>>>>> it out and test the shifting in real conditions. And I have to say, 
>>>>>>>>>> it 
>>>>>>>>>> feels really nice, couldn’t be happier at this point.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The eventual plan is to swap the 700c wheels for 650b (but the 
>>>>>>>>>> 650b wheels that I had planned to go on here ended up on my 
>>>>>>>>>> girlfriends 
>>>>>>>>>> Rambouillet!) and put on 42mm BSP’s.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know this is a long write-up, but it’s been a long road to this 
>>>>>>>>>> build. But it is finally nearing culmination. I have to say, what a 
>>>>>>>>>> time to 
>>>>>>>>>> be alive and into bikes, with so many different options and ways to 
>>>>>>>>>> approach a bike build. I feel pretty lucky and excited for how this 
>>>>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>>>>> gonna turn out!  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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