@Patrick,

Chose wisely, Grasshopper.

Kim Hetzel.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2025, 4:16 PM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Ben; so I ought to be prepared. It’s now a choice between my NOS
> protectors or helicopter tape.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 3:35 PM Ben Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> But one principal question remains: what is the likelihood of chainslap
>> paint damage?
>>
>> GMBN Tech had a video showing how even clutched RDs still have some chain
>> slap, so yeah it will *eventually* happen. Personally, I put some sort
>> of clear "helicopter" style tape on my DS chainstay at minimum.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 16, 2025 at 12:38:13 PM UTC-8 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> You are more than welcome, Patrick.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 12:09 PM Patrick Moore <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Kim. I do have some tape like that you suggest, from Ortlieb,
>>>> meant to protect painted or powder coated racks.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks too to all the other respondents.
>>>>
>>>> But one principal question remains: what is the likelihood of chainslap
>>>> paint damage with an 11-32* and a 50/34 ring set? This if the bike is not
>>>> underbiked on rough dirt and is ridden 99/100 on smooth-enough pavement?
>>>>
>>>> * Soon, God willing, to be switched to a much more reasonable 14-32
>>>> cassette. Aside: *Who* needs a 50/11? That’s 124 gear inches!
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 11:30 AM Kim H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @Patrick,
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding chain stay protection, I have personally purchased ISC
>>>>> Racers Tape a.k.a helicopter tape from Amazon and my favorite handlebar
>>>>> tape.
>>>>>
>>>>> I take my handlebar tape and wrap the length of the driveside
>>>>> chainstay. Then cut a piece of the helicopter tape the length of the chain
>>>>> stay and wrap it over the top of the handlebar tape. If any grease or dirt
>>>>> gets into it, it can be easily wiped off multiple times. Thus, one's
>>>>> anxiety is reduced to zero.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2025, 7:49 AM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It has been so long since I’ve owned a standard road derailleur bike
>>>>>> that I don’t remember if chain slap protectors were normally used on road
>>>>>> bikes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My third-hand Roadeo does not have one but I see no chain damage to
>>>>>> the stay; does this mean that, riding on pavement or, at worst, on firm
>>>>>> dirt, that a chain on a 50/34 t ring combination is always high enough 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> to bang the paint?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do hear the chain slapping the cage on roughish pavement descents,
>>>>>> but again, no sign of chainstay paint damage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should I install one just in case?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so, then next question: I’ve got some very old but NOS and rather
>>>>>> nice real chromed metal cs protectors but they are so old that the glue 
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> probably dried up. Can I attach to the chainstay paint with a strategic
>>>>>> number of little contact cement points (applying cement lightly to both
>>>>>> surfaces, let dry, press)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, no twine or used tubes on this bike.
>>>>>>
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