I have two of them. The first was basically a steel copy of the Crust Ortho 
bar. It’s in steel and it’s almost a clone of the Ortho but the bends are 
sharper and thus it has more usable space for hand positions. The second bar is 
titanium and is on my Gus. It’s basically an enlarged Albatross that is 700mm 
wide. The guy who owns Doom, Keaton, is basically a genius in my opinion and he 
can sort of do anything you want. I ride wider bars because it gives me more 
room to ride technical stuff. If I was just cruising, I’d probably scale down 
to something more like 600-650.

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> On Wednesday, Dec 03, 2025 at 4:13 PM, James <[email protected] 
> (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> I've often thought about custom bars. Were those bars that Doom came up with? 
> Or did you have a specific ask? I'm curious how it works.
>
> James
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 4:07 PM David Ross <[email protected] 
> (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > My favorite setup is custom Doom bars that are basically an enlarged 
> > Albatross. Running these with a BMX stem works really well for the kind of 
> > riding I do, which is often more MTB type stuff vs touring or cruising. One 
> > day I'm probably going to get impaled by the swept bars while jamming on 
> > single track, but until then it's working well.
> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 2:13 PM Davey Two Shoes <[email protected] 
> > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > > Cant go wrong with Ron's. I also like the Ramble Bar.
> > > This doesnt quite fit, but the Surly Moloko is a best of all worlds, if 
> > > youre blind.
> > >
> > > On Sunday, November 30, 2025 at 10:16:32 AM UTC-5 Jay wrote:
> > > > Looking forward to hear how you get on with them.
> > > >
> > > > I've noticed lately that I may get soreness in my wrist when using 
> > > > swept bars. With my back, neck and arms in a really comfortable 
> > > > position, I reach for the grips, perhaps to use the brake levers. And 
> > > > my wrist is cocked outwards to meet the angle of the bars. That's when 
> > > > I want my hands relatively 'flat' from the ground, however, if I rotate 
> > > > my wrist so my knuckles are less pointed up, more pointed down (not all 
> > > > the way down), then the wrist is at a straight-ish angle. But my hands 
> > > > like to be palm down / back of hand up (again, not exactly that way). 
> > > > I've tweaked the bar a lot (tried other bars before), seems like this 
> > > > can be part of that ongoing process of adjustments until you get it 
> > > > just right.
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, November 29, 2025 at 2:35:44 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
> > > > > Good choice with the VO Granola bars. I used them when I refurbished 
> > > > > of my friend's 90's Trek earlier this year. He' really likes them. I 
> > > > > liked a bar with 31.8 clamp area with 1 1/8 thread less stems, so 
> > > > > many options in that combination. I used the VO happy stem to get the 
> > > > > bars up for him.
> > > > >
> > > > > JohnS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Saturday, November 29, 2025 at 12:23:49 PM UTC-5 Andy Beichler 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > This morning I got tired of the mental experiments and ordered the 
> > > > > > Granola bars (and some grips, a seat post and fenders) from Velo 
> > > > > > Orange. At 20% and getting my shipping for free, I feel like it was 
> > > > > > the right call. Worse case scenario, I don't like the bars as much 
> > > > > > as I thought I would and I pass them on to someone else. I'll let 
> > > > > > folks know how it goes.
> > >
> > >
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