Go Green! MSU - Class of '75 and just bought my third Rivendell.
Mike Bacon Lower Alabama & Lower Slower Delaware On Friday, December 12, 2025 at 6:57:04 AM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: > To follow up on this thread: > > A 2009 Hillborne came my way. > I'd been on the lookout for a suitable Rivendell for years, but they're > scarce in middle America. On the other hand, I'm still young, so I wasn't > in an hurry. > > Ted wrote, eons ago: > > >> 51cm Sam just arrived, it is 2637 grams for the frame (including > headset cups, water bottle bolts, and seat post binder bolt) and 844 grams > for the fork (including crown race). > > The frame & fork came sans headset, and the first thing I did was to weigh > the pieces. > This is a 56 cm frame, before the double top tube craziness. > > With everything off, including the bottom bracket and the bottle cage > screws (14 g for four, who knew? Titanium is clearly required!) and only > the binder bolt and BB cable guide still in the frame, the weight was 2398 > g per my kitchen scale. > > That's 200 g less than Ted found for his recently purchased 51 cm. History > may be at work here; the original Sams were basically made-in-Taiwan Homers > before that plan became untenable. Riv may have beefed up the frame, as Sam > became a rough-road Homer. > > I have a "23 inch" -- 58 cm -- Motobécane Grand Touring from 1981 with > Vitus 172 that weighs 2370 g, and it is a lovely sport tourer, not made for > heavy loads. Given the Sam's modern oversized and heat treated tubing, I > exepect the frame to be quite stiff. > > The fork weighs 954 g, 110 g more than Ted's. Given the difference in > frame size, that's probably from the longer steerer tube. I have high hopes > for some comfort from this fork on mid-Michigan's frost-heaved pavement > this spring. > > cheers -mathias > East Lansing, MI > > Gratuitous picture from the morning commute: > > > [image: green.jpg] > On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 7:47:29 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote: > >> Very helpful - thanks! >> >> Ted Durant >> Milwaukee, WI >> >> On Jul 10, 2024, at 6:46 PM, Brian Watts <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Riv built mine a VBC cranks as well and they used 60x122.5, my white >> industr bracket wasn’t enough either. >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 10:28:11 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote: >> >>> I'd like to hear from others on what BB and crank you are using on your >>> new Sam. The BB that comes with it is a Shimano 110mm. I installed a Phil >>> 113mm and found that my White Industries crank (VBC, 44/32) is a no-go. The >>> inner ring bolts hit the chain stay well before the crank is tightened. >>> It's going to need a lot more chainline to work. >>> >>> Ted Durant >>> Milwaukee WI USA >>> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/3cMt5OZB3IQ/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ba60edda-2e1e-4f32-97c0-ace52495ff5en%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ba60edda-2e1e-4f32-97c0-ace52495ff5en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/51316c05-a33b-4e4e-a5de-854808ad21a3n%40googlegroups.com.
