And those damn things are so so scary fast. If we were regulating things, one requirement would be they must have some kind of engine noise so we can hear them approaching from behind. BTW, can the police serve citations for speeding etc,? I've never encountered cops ticketing eBikes...must happen tho, right? And what kind of ticket can we serve up to child?
At some point, no matter where we ride, there will be disasters. Let's hope none of us are ever involved. Jock BTW, sincere apologies for kicking up the dust. I'll turn it off now. No mas. On Sun, Jan 18, 2026 at 8:18 AM Jonathan Carmack <[email protected]> wrote: > Our local news here in DC just had a piece on some guy that is fishing out > e-bikes and scooters from the Potomac. And the city is trying to hold the > companies like Lime accountable for it. FWIW, it’s not a problem unique to > us I guess Amsterdam even has a name for bikes that get thrown in the > canals. But its the leaking rare earth metals that’s obviously a concern > for the Potomac, a river that is now pretty clean compared to years past. > > They also expressed some of confusion to why people throw them in the > river, clearly they don’t understand the displeasure one experiences upon > finding an abandoned rental blocking the towpath. > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2026 at 10:21 AM ascpgh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Most of these e-BSOs won't stay in use after a rear wheel flat requires >> either a tube or a tire change. Most bike shops, even those with e-bike >> programs, won't touch this category of soon-to-be landfill because of the >> difficulty of wheel removal/replacement. Not even time and materials >> costing. >> >> As per observations of the common operator profile, once these things' >> novelty wears off, or they ever have to use those offset foot platform >> things on a cold night that ate the battery's charge before they reach >> their destination. I have passed several on my commutes who have been in >> that "plan B" mode, having to propel with their own muscle. Operators then >> appeared very displeased, even more so when receiving comments. >> >> Andy Cheatham >> Pittsburgh >> >> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 4:08:50 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Agree. Around here, SF Bay Area, especially Marin, you see y 2-13 year >>> olds flying around on ebikes. The bike of choice is the Super73! These >>> bikes can easily go 20-28mph and modifying them to go 30+ isn't tha hard... >>> >>> [image: SUPER73-R Adventure Series | The Rugged Runner] >>> >>> It's amazes me that parents let these kids ride around on the streets on >>> these machines. Makes you wonder if any of these kids have any sort of >>> 'driver's training." I have heard that some local jurisdictions are >>> cracking down, but its probably going to take a few deaths or serious >>> injury to get any kind of legislation. In the mean time, these kids will >>> continue to fly around... >>> >>> Good Luck! >>> >>> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 9:21:00 AM UTC-8 George Schick wrote: >>> >>>> Brewster - I have nothing in particular against e-bikes...as long as >>>> the Class 2 and 3 stay off the trails and ride on the streets where they >>>> belong. During the past couple of years some young kids who probably have >>>> no business with one of those things in the first place have been riding on >>>> the path around the park behind my house going full tilt. The park >>>> district has signs posted saying they're not allowed on the paths, but they >>>> pay no attention. Makes me wonder who their parents are and what in the >>>> world they're thinking. >>>> >>>> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Come on, why be paranoid about carbon, the next big thing is going to >>>>> be Wireless Brakes! Hey, SRAM, the current innovator in cycling (innovate >>>>> or die!), is working on it, so you know its coming out soon... >>>>> >>>>> And what's the deal with e-bike bashing?! I'm an old guy, but almost >>>>> every person I know who is in their 70s and up that is still riding are on >>>>> an e-bike with the Specialized Creo being the favorite! The oldest friend >>>>> is 79 and he's still riding strong! If it helps you to get out and ride, >>>>> then I'm all for it! Of course, YMMV! >>>>> >>>>> Good Luck! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, January 4, 2026 at 3:26:22 PM UTC-8 George Schick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Not at all what I intended to say. Those things going on with Nitto >>>>>> bars and rear deraillers are both improvements on existing technologies. >>>>>> I >>>>>> was referring to things like the excessive use of CF in both frames as >>>>>> well >>>>>> as seat post,s forks, etc.; the introduction of automated gear shifting; >>>>>> the AI sensitive shifting of the foot back and forth on a cleated pedal >>>>>> when climbing, etc. Further (and I'm slightly reluctant to go here) >>>>>> there's >>>>>> the unfortunate advent of high-speed e-bikes on trails, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, January 4, 2026 at 9:48:19 AM UTC-6 [email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The “next big thing” for me is the OM-1 RD, and new Riv/Nitto bars. >>>>>>> And, yeah, I suppose I’m chasing them. >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 10:09 AM, George Schick <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, indeed. Chasing after the "next big thing" can easily ruin >>>>>>> something that should just be fun. I recall how many years ago the >>>>>>> sport >>>>>>> of off-hand steel silhouette shooting was ruined when someone developed >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> laser rifle/scope combo that wouldn't allow the shooter to pull the >>>>>>> trigger >>>>>>> unless the sight was dead-on the target. For Christmas I was given a >>>>>>> book >>>>>>> by Bill McGann entitled "Why Your Bike is Made in Asia: My Career in >>>>>>> Bicycles as I watched Two Continents Squander an Industry," in which he >>>>>>> describes the evolution of the bicycle and its components. Among other >>>>>>> things it's a sad depiction of how the industry keeps developing more >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> more "automated" and sophisticated controls and components to cater to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> racing crowd and yet everyone follows the carrot so to speak. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, January 4, 2026 at 8:51:51 AM UTC-6 John Dewey wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like many here I imagine, I stopped chasing the tech many years >>>>>>>> ago…and Rivendell was largely responsible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That realization did lead to an accumulation of spare / now rare >>>>>>>> consumables but that’s a good thing. Like most here, I now just ride >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> obsessively maintain. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It’s delightfully liberating. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 8:09 PM Steven Aussenberg < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For those who haven’t seen this yet: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: maxresdefault.jpg] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 【レジェンド対談】RIVENDELL グラントさんとNITTO 吉川社長 >>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/HHw_sG-csfQ> >>>>>>>>> youtu.be <https://youtu.be/HHw_sG-csfQ> >>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/HHw_sG-csfQ> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Steven in Arcata >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/E86898B7-ED71-489C-BD60-D7876F0FCD11%40gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/E86898B7-ED71-489C-BD60-D7876F0FCD11%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/10eaf7c8-4f07-4456-acc8-6399bbb203a7n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/10eaf7c8-4f07-4456-acc8-6399bbb203a7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/904eb184-9e30-4ee8-936c-dcc7aa0b65b1n%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/904eb184-9e30-4ee8-936c-dcc7aa0b65b1n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAEQur2UnrcYqVftw4DnYCcVuoc-aPiiCRMG-LMa0yo_53zyM%3Dg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAEQur2UnrcYqVftw4DnYCcVuoc-aPiiCRMG-LMa0yo_53zyM%3Dg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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