Joe, I didn’t have your comments in mind; I just wanted to speak generally
about the value of certain Riv options no longer available. The #2 (1999)
custom and the circa 2010 Roadeo are, for me, perfect road bikes.

Patrick “I’m happy, you’re happy, we’re all happy” Moore, who still has his
eye on a Clem.

On Sat, Jan 31, 2026 at 2:50 PM Joe Bernard <[email protected]> wrote:

> To be clear my comments do not imply criticism of customs or the custom
> program. If you have one you have an astonishing bicycle..ride it!
>
> On Saturday, January 31, 2026 at 1:05:19 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I have to demur, but in good faith and without disputativeness. I found
>> my second custom (out of 3) and my current Roadeo far more accommodating as
>> road bikes to my personal tastes than my other 2 Riv customs or my Ram or
>> my Sam, and the 2 non-Riv customs I own are modeled after my favorite Riv
>> and also more accommodating than the Rivs I sold off.
>>
>> I’m sorry to see the Roadeo go, even more than the customs. Mine is
>> second or third hand but little used, and it fits and rides like my
>> favorite Riv custom. One day perhaps I will build it up with preferred
>> friction and silver and backward parts, but for now the 11 sp Ultegra just
>> works surprisingly well, tho’ I prefer more agency when shifting. (Damn,
>> how did they get click shifting to work so well? 50/32 violently
>> cross-chained and pedals as smoothly as with a straight chainline???)
>>
>> I can’t see any of Riv’s current line taking the place of either.
>> Chacun/e a son/sa gout.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2026 at 1:38 PM RichS <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Agree with Dave and Joe 100%. I have a 12 year old Hillborne that rides
>>> every bit as well as two non-Riv customs I own.
>>
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