Mike,

I can run a 100mm stem but then I get pain in my neck as I'm not so
flexible anymore. I believe that unless one is sort of
disproportionate, Riv bikes fit really well based on PBH. Make some
allowances for flexibility if you will. With your PBH being lower than
mine, I'd say we're both riding frames based on our PBH. Stem
selection finetunes thr fit, along with handlebar height.

How this helps the OT I'm not sure... Unless he can find the
recommended PBH range for the frame size he's looking at and knows
whether he's of average proportions or not.

I'd also suggest going for the middle of the range as usually there is
some overlap.

René

On 8/5/10, Michael_S <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think that a 59cm is on the tall side of the range for someone 5'
> 9". As Seth said ,standover is usually secondary to the Top tube
> measurement. Of course stem length and saddle setback can adjust for
> minor ( 1-2cm) differences. I usually try to start with the top tube
> measurement and a 100mm stem and pick a bike size that can work 10mm
> either way. To me a bike with a 7 or 8 cm stem is a sign of a too big
> bike. FWIW I am 5'11" and have a 85 PBM and usually end up on a 58 or
> 59 cm frame.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Aug 5, 4:41 pm, Rene Sterental <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'm 5'11" with PBH of 89.5 and ride a 61cm AHH with 35mm tires and a
>> 61cm Atlantis with 50mm tires. The Atlantis with the 50mm tires is
>> quite taller, but gives me enough clearance. Bigger tires, assuming
>> they'd fit would make it uncomfortable but still rideable.
>>
>> The top tube is perfect and I use 8cm stems on both.
>>
>> My saddle height is at 87 IIRC; otherwise it's at 77... I'm on
>> vacation with the family and the sun is impairing my recolection...
>> :-)
>>
>> René
>>
>> On 8/5/10, Ralph Rognstad Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I am just shy of 6'2" (PBH of 89) and ride a 63cm Canti Rom, usually
>> > with 28's or 32's. Works for me, but did seem a little tall at first.
>> > Ralph
>>
>> > jandrews_nyc wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >> I am helping a friend who is interested in purchasing a used
>> >> Cantilever Romulus.  His PBH is 84.  The bike is a 59.  Riv website
>> >> says for most smaller/av riders its PBH minus around 25 to get frame
>> >> size...thats 84-25 = 59!....but I'm nervous it will be way up there
>> >> and the Romulus geometry chart has the standover for the Rom listed as
>> >> 83.8cm and that's on 700x27's.  He'd like to put 700x35's on.
>> >> Can anyone help me with this.  Experience with this frame.  Is a 59
>> >> just a bit too big for a 5'9'' rider with a PBH of 84?
>> >> Thank you!
>> >> Jason
>>
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