Top Tube Length

When you draw enough frames (and one may be "enough') you'll see that
the forwardmost point of a fixed-length top tube depends on the drop
(barely) and the seat tube angle (heavily), and that alone---with
nothing else added to the discussion---illustrates that a 57cm tt on
one bike is not a-gonna put that point at the same spot as a 57cm top
tube on another bike (with a different seat tube angle).

When you mix into the equation (as you gotta, there's no denying,
there's no choice here, you just hafta) the additional and equally-if-
not-more dramatic effects of raising the handlebar and dicking around
(is that OK to say?) with stem length, then it is super easy to see
that harping on "top tube length" without the context of all these
other factors is like walking around the streets saying "I like
spices."

A long time ago, shortly after "Q-Factor" went  public in Bicycle
Guide magazine, there was another "factor" article, called "The Z-
Factor" that talked more about the top tube, and addressed the thing
Bob Cooper mentioned briefly here:

"The top tube should really be measured from a point in space that is
directly above the bottom bracket spindle to the center of the headset
lock nut and level with the lock nut."

May not be izzzactly the same, but "Z-Factor" iz cloze to dat.

Anyway, EVERY tube on a bike frame matters, but a bike frame in the
design stage is like one of those kid's toys made up of straight
sticks and ball joints that you can reshape by pulling and pushing and
squeezing to your heart's content, and every movment affects a bunch
of other stuff. Please, when I die, don't engrave on my urn, "Dude
didn't think top tube length mattered one whit."

When there's a roar of public opinion that warrants a dissenting
voice, and you're the mouse with that dissenting voice, you gotta
squawk loudly to be heard above it, or else....nobody hears. So every
now and then you can expect me to squawk about how top tube length
"doesn't matter"....but I know it DOES MATTER, but it is like the
spice in a sauce....izzall.

That is what I think. Nothing's what I know.

G

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