I ride a 9 speed/11-32 and an 8 speed12/30 with barend Silvers. Both work flawlessly. Disclaimer...I live on a big hill, and most of my riding includes big hills. I get a lot of practice. Also, I've been using friction shifting pretty much my whole life so it seems second nature. Not sure I could describe my method but I do recommend "letting up" a little when shifting under load. Small shifts are fine going up steep hills (1-2 cogs) but don't expect to jump from the little rings to the biggies (3 or more cogs) without some clanking. If I get caught on a really steep hill without getting in the proper gear (does happen occassionally) I'll do a little circle or stop and lift the rear wheel shifting into the big cogs rather than try force it.
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