Yes, i ended up with 12. Just last night i compiled the pages, bought
some big graph paper and gave it a try. It's a very interesting lesson
in the considerations, much more to it than the 2 basic angles. I'm
going to do a little more research to understand rake/trail and how it
looks on paper - i think i have it straight, but maybe not. I'm used
to thinking in terms of trail rather than rake.

Now that i've been through it once, i'm going to draw up a couple more
to play with different angles and TT slopes, it's a fun exercise.


On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Philip Williamson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> There are 12, right?
>
>  Philip
>
> On Aug 26, 5:59 pm, William <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Didn't quite end with the flourish that I might have worked myself up
>> to expect.  Anyway, pull down all the PDF's and go through it if
>> you've been waiting.  Grant says he'll pull them down, for reasons
>> that are not obvious to me.
>>
>> What I drew was a 650B road/brevet bike.  It look a LOT like a 58cm
>> Saluki/Hilsen.  The only differences worth noting are that I used a
>> hair more top tube upslope than the AHH.  Also, if I had a custom
>> built, mine would be 130mm spaced, and I'd spec lighter tubing and
>> fewer braze-ons.
>>
>> When Grant revealed that he ordered 10 650B 58cm Hilsens, though, I
>> took that as a nudge to just buy one of those.  That's what I'm saving
>> up for now as a next Riv.
>>
>> The next frame drawing project I'm going to do is superimpose all my
>> bikes on top of each other, including the captain end of my tandem.
>> It'll be interesting to see how they all line up in the relative
>> arrangement of my three contact points: feet, butt, hands.
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