I also thought that someone else (not Maxway) was doing the forks, but can't remember who. Given that the lugs appear identical otherwise, i'm surprised in the differences in the forks, especially that the canti version seems to have narrower tapered legs. The fork bend looks the same on both, which is nice (i'm a fan of Riv's nice forks). Unless it's a trick of the light, the orange on the Waterford version looks a bit deeper. I agree, both are nice frames.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Bruce <[email protected]> wrote: > Did I read somewhere that the Maxway frame uses a Toyo built fork? Toyo did > a fine job on prior forks, so one wonders why the one pictured by Bryan > seems "stockier." > > To be honest, both bikes look great to me. I like the paint on the Maxway a > bit better, but agree that the Waterford crown is nicer. > > > ________________________________ > From: William <[email protected]> > To: RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 1:55:35 PM > Subject: [RBW] Re: 1 Toptube or 2 -- Comparing the Two Versions of the > Hillborne > > I'll vote (kind of). I'm surprised at how close the weights are. I > think the double TT looks cool, and I'd find useful. On BART I have > to grab hard on the seat tube to portage the bike up stairs, because > I'd get a handful of frame pump if I grabbed the TT. A second TT > would be a portage handle for me. I cannot think of another solution > to that for under 8 ounces. Frame strength and stiffness-wise, I > think the second TT is unnecessary. But, pretty lugs and a gorgeous > headbadge aren't necessary either. I personally prefer cantilevers > for a touring setup and sidepulls for a brevet/roadie setup. I > wouldn't call either one 'better'. > > The thing I feel strongly about is the fork. I really don't like the > fork on the single TT bike. I vastly prefer the curly crown, the > curveback wings and especially the narrow tapered fork blades. The > blades on the single TT one look clumsy and chubby. Ick. My 56cm > Hillborne has a fork like the double TT version. > > Bottom line, if someone offered me a free trade of my single TT > hillborne for a double TT hillborne, I'd probably take it. I would > not pay $250 for the upgrade. Mine is perfectly fine. If I had to > buy one of those two framesets from RenBikes today, I would absolutely > pick the double TT one, and I would pay the $250 extra because A/ the > fork is way nicer looking B/ I personally prefer cantilevers for my > Hillborne setup and C/ I like the double TT. > > On Sep 1, 11:04 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles" > <[email protected]> wrote: >> In the Shop we happen to have two 56cm Hillbornes. One is the >> Taiwanese made Maxway, the other is the Waterford version from WI. >> >> Of course, we couldn't help but take >> photos:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7&gallery=66 >> >> Obviously, the double toptuber is the Waterford version. It also >> includes braze-ons for cantilever brakes, and a rear bridge for the >> cable stop. The fork crowns are different. >> >> Because I know people will ask ... the weight difference between the >> frames is 8 ounces. For perspective, that is about the difference >> between a full water bottle and one that is 3/4 full. >> >> Both bikes are in our "build queue"; we'll post pictures when they are >> complete. >> >> Now, let the debate begin ... >> >> Bryan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
