Oh, and I'm curious... was it that you felt the Hillborne/Bullmoose 
intrinsically didn't make much sense? If so, what's the rationale? It is the 
combo I'm likely to ride the least. But my rationale I think to be rare: even 
now, with all these options, I normally choose to ride bolt upright (note the 
height of my Albatross bars) in a way that even most high handlebar advocates 
wouldn't expect.

Or was it that, in light of having any of the other options, the 
Hillborne/Bullmoose would never be the combination of either you'd choose (i.e. 
with Hillborne you'd always want some other bar, with Bullmoose you'd always 
want some other frame)? 

Or was it something else?

Oh, and the more I ride the Bullmoose bars, the more beautiful they look from 
the saddle. And those portuguese cork grips with clear shellac look great!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean


----- William <[email protected]> wrote:
> Confirming that the complete-bike photos are in fact there, and are
> plenty good quality to tell the story.  You built column 1 of my
> exceedingly poorly written 4x4 array of bikes post!  In that post I
> speculated that a Hillborne with Bullmooses would not make much sense,
> but in your pics, I have to say that one is my favorite.  It's strange
> to me though that you run your thumbies almost flat on top of the
> noodles and rolled WAAY forward on your bullmooses.  Is that
> intentional?
> 
> On Sep 10, 11:33 am, Thomas Lynn Skean 
> wrote:
> > It only now occurs to me.... perhaps you didn't notice that the second
> > set of cockpit links (next to my comments on how each rides) actually
> > do take you to pictures of the bike with the appropriate cockpit. Not
> > high quality, mind you. But pictures nonetheless.
> >
> > Just in case you weren't actually *purely* (and *appropriately*)
> > chiding me for my lack of photographic prowess, I thought I'd point it
> > out. Another thing to note in an update to the page.
> >
> > Yours,
> > Thomas Lynn Skean
> >
> > On Sep 10, 9:21 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Great post, but where oh where are the high quality photos of your
> > > complete bike with each cockpit? :)
> >
> > > You appear to be using the same stem with 3 of the bars? Do you set
> > > them at the same height? That would be interesting, as I think I would
> > > want a shorter extension for a moustache versus a noodle, and or
> > > greater height (Switched from comfy noodles on my non-Sam to
> > > moustaches, and missed the top of the bar position/was too stretched
> > > out, so I switched to some VO porteurs, and now am too upright [all
> > > with the same stem]).
> >
> > > Gernot
> >
> > > On Sep 10, 12:38 am, "Robert F. Harrison" 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > Thanks for the write-up on all the different bars and how you use them.
> > > > Being a stout-but-active middle-aged man myself I found it all quite
> > > > interesting. I only have m-bars on my Quickbeam and am quite pleased 
> > > > with
> > > > them but next year I'm thinking about a bike with derailleurs and your
> > > > footwork will aid greatly in my choice of bars.
> >
> > > > Aloha!
> >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean <
> >
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi, all!
> >
> > > > > (wordy... skip to the link for the main content)
> >
> > > > > For about a year before I got my Hillborne, I was a happy Albatross
> > > > > bar cyclist. I remain a happy Albatross bar cyclist. But in my youth I
> > > > > rode drop bars and liked them. Later I had also ridden mountain-bike-y
> > > > > bars and liked them. Having ridden almost daily for a couple of years
> > > > > now, I've gone from being a total couch-potato huffing-puffing fat guy
> > > > > to being an energetic less-fat able-bodied guy. Along the way I have
> > > > > discovered that almost all of my ideas about "discomfort" when cycling
> > > > > were really reflecting my utter lack of general fitness. Growing more
> > > > > fit made me realize I could sit this way and move that way and bend
> > > > > the other way, without causing pain or feeling at risk. That is, I
> > > > > started feeling even *more* comfortable on my bike, more loose and
> > > > > more "able". And started thinking "you know, it wouldn't be so bad to
> > > > > stretch out here, lean there, tuck in more". I began to wonder what
> > > > > riding in positions besides being bolt upright might be like. And now
> > > > > that I had a Hillborne frameset, surely one of the most versatile bike
> > > > > platforms around, I thought perhaps I could set it up with different
> > > > > handlebars to accommodate somewhat different riding styles and
> > > > > positions.
> >
> > > > > I had, as a stout-but-active middle-aged man, become bar-curious.
> >
> > > > > (sorry...)
> >
> > > > > In case you're still reading, below is a link to my web page
> > > > > describing how I satisfied my curiosity. There you'll find
> > > > > descriptions, parts lists, some pictures, and general comments. And, I
> > > > > promise, no puns.
> >
> > > > >http://tiny.cc/h1p8s
> >
> > > > > I really can't overstate how much I like my Hillborne. For me, its
> > > > > lengths and angles have felt exactly right from the very first time I
> > > > > sat on one. Putting parts on it was truly fun. And now it looks
> > > > > beautiful and rides great. In all its forms.
> >
> > > > > Yours,
> > > > > Thomas Lynn Skean
> >
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