My good deed was buying stuff from both Rivendell (clothing) and
Hiawatha (studded tires and an Everything cage) today.  No new frame.
But I'm on a self-imposed bike buying hiatus.  Otherwise, the
Hillborne might go to make way for a Pugsley or some such.

As to tires, totally agree with Grant about the Touring II.  Before
switching to mountain bike about 1984, had a road bike that had those
tires.  Went through at least two tires a year.  Probably four.

With respect to modern tires, have worn out some Paselas.  But the
sidewall was going at about the same time the tread was.  Then again,
I was heavier at the time and the extra weight definitely played a
part in wear.  This year wore out a WTB Vulpine 29er tire in about
1,000 miles.  Or at least to the point where it felt prudent to
replace.  Who knows.  Meybe good for a couple thousand more if I work
at it.  Instead, it's a spare.

The Marathon Supremes on the Hillborne will soon end their second
season and still look good.  Well over 3,000 miles.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Oct 29, 7:45 pm, tdusky <[email protected]> wrote:
> I once wore most of the rubber off of a Ruffy Tuffy. It started it's
> life on the front and moved to the back. As Ann stated if you have
> fenders you don't look at your tires. I happened to turn my bike over
> and was shocked to see the rubber worn away down to the casing, in a
> number of spots. So I would think the average customer that Grant has
> wears out their tires more, because many of them use fenders.

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