i'd wager the set of "hack" bicycles with zip ties get ridden more.

do what works, do what lets you get out and ride quickly and easily.

stop bemoaning zip-ties, i think we all get the point and some of us think
it's absolutely silly and even profoundly status-oriented to eliminate
simplicity just because you have a "+/- $4000.00" bike. i'd wager plenty
here bought rivendells for their fit, form, function; care little about such
nonsense; and don't obsess about such trivialities.


On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:16 PM, robert zeidler <[email protected]>wrote:

> With no disrespect to anyone, especially during this joyous time, plastic
> ties on a +/- $4000.00 bike is just atrocious.  Learn the use of a few basic
> tools and use the correct fasteners.  For a "get-you-home" or temp repair,
> OK, but in the words of my first shop-teacher, it's "hack".
>
> RGZ
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Bill Gibson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Execution is everything, but I suspect that not all zip ties are equal. UV
>> light will take a toll on the plastic, some kinds more than others, so be
>> vigilant and carry spares. While not in the league with fully integrated
>> design and the custom hardware fashioned by the great French Constructeurs
>> and secured with fine leather and beeswax, if I change up my setup
>> regularly, for fun or adaptations, they are good enough and pretty good.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 11:14 AM, JimD <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> For the longest time I've eschewed the use of zip ties on my bikes.
>>>
>>> To moi, for the longest time, they just seemed wrong for beautiful
>>> Rivendell bicycles.
>>>
>>> Boy was I wrong.
>>>
>>> I'd been procrastinating about installing mudflaps on the Saluki.
>>> Couldn't get around to
>>> chasing down the appropriate hardware.
>>> Motivated by the rain, I tempted fate and used black zip ties.
>>>
>>>
>>> Arguably the zip ties may even look as good (or better?) than machine
>>> screws, nut, and washers.
>>> If someone had just invented zip ties they'd be regarded as some
>>> fantastic technical innovation.
>>> Light, adaptable, easy to use - a fastener for the modern age!
>>> Slick, easy. Once again Riv's got it right.
>>>
>>> Finding myself on the slippery slope, I even used them to fashion a
>>> blinky light bracket.
>>> I'll have to post pictures.
>>>
>>> -JimD
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