Mike: don't use your saddle position to adjust your bar position; do
it the other way 'round: get your saddle right and then get the stem
you need for the right bar position.

This will solve your saddle problem by, perhaps, transferring the
problem to the stem -- the last (Salsa) custom stems cost me about
$150, IIRC. Seriously, saddle position is the starting point of good
bike fit as the experts (not me, tho' I verified their wisdom in by my
own experience) including Grant always point out.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm

"The Fore-Aft Saddle Position

Now we get to what I think is the most important part of fitting a
bicycle, the fore-aft position of the saddle. Once you get this right,
everything else is easy. ..."

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Mike S <[email protected]> wrote:
> Also, an issue in my saddle selection is fore-aft adjustment. I wanted
> to try the Selle An-Atomica because it seems it can mounted much
> further back than a B.17, which I need on the bike it is for that has
> a too-short top tube. I would rather have the problem solved by a
> saddle than another $150 lugged nitto wayback post. How do the rails
> on the Berthoud compare with a B.17 and S.A?
>
> On Jan 8, 9:40 pm, Mike S <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I just bought a Selle An-Atomica LD Clydesdale saddle, mainly because
>> it was on sale for $133 and I'm intrigued by the design and that it's
>> MUSA. I'm wondering if I may have made a mistake by choosing this
>> saddle over the Berthoud, which I considered but deemed not worthy of
>> the higher cost.
>>
>> I've been riding a B.17 for about 3000 miles so far and it seems to be
>> in real good shape and I am very comfortable on a B.17, but I'm
>> wondering if there is something better. My primary concerns are a ride
>> that is of maximum comfort, and I also want outstanding durability.
>> Can any Selle An-Atomica users vouch for it's longevity, and can
>> anyone compare the two (Berthoud & S.A)?
>>
>> Although the B.17 has served me well so far, I am a little worried
>> about the longevity with a post-acquisition saddle, and I'm also
>> generally always looking for gear improvements. Is the verdict that
>> the Gilles Berthoud is the best bang for the buck, despite the higher
>> cost?
>>
>> Also, my riding is always with the handlebars a few centimeters higher
>> than the saddle.
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2:27 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Rene. I just got mine in. Here's a brief visual comparison of the
>> > saddle vis-a-vis a B-17 Champion Special:
>>
>> >http://tinyurl.com/23eyb8o
>>
>> > I've been slowly accumulating parts to upgrade my distance bike. The
>> > Aspin will replace a Selle An-Atomica, which will go to my saddle-less
>> > camping/utility bike. I had been switching my B-17S between my
>> > commuter (the Quickbeam) and the utility bike.
>>
>> > Best,
>> > Lee
>>
>> > On Jan 7, 3:47 pm, Rene Sterental <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > Thanks for all the responses. I'm ordering one tonight to try it. I
>> > > like the B17 except for its nose up position to prevent sliding
>> > > forward. Always thought it should be flatter.
>>
>> > > Seems like the Berthoud Touring might make me completely happy.
>>
>> > > René
>>
>> > > Sent from my iPhone 4
>>
>> > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Seth Vidal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Kelly Sleeper <[email protected]> 
>> > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > >> Only reason I wouldn't try a 200 dollar saddle is if I can't return 
>> > > >> it.   It
>> > > >> looks to me to be a very well made comfortable saddle that has a 
>> > > >> benefit if
>> > > >> you buy thier saddle bags too.
>>
>> > > >> I would also out of desperation try it if I didn't have comfortable 
>> > > >> saddles
>> > > >> now.
>>
>> > > > wallbike.com
>>
>> > > > 6month unconditional return guarantee.
>>
>> > > > -sv
>>
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