> I think Grant seems to favor the tried and true proven stuff
> while VO seems to like to experiment with new versions using cheaper
> Taiwanese mfgers

VO experiments with manufacturers, true.  But most of the VO branded
components are highly derivative.  Most VO racks, brakes, brake
levers, cranks, pedals have French counterparts from as early as the
1950s.  The geometry of VO bikes is classic French.

On the other hand, Riv has some fairly novel items such as the
Platrack, splats, and was very happy to shift to the rapidrise rear
derailer (although Riv appears to be out of stock at the moment).

On Feb 4, 9:42 am, Michael_S <[email protected]> wrote:
> Certainly both Riv and VO try to find their own niches in this small
> part of the cycling business, but I find a lot of commonality between
> the two.  I think Grant seems to favor the tried and true proven stuff
> while VO seems to like to experiment with new versions using cheaper
> Taiwanese mfgers
>
> ~Mike
>
> On Feb 4, 5:55 am, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Jitensha is actually pre-Rivendell, so if anything, Rivendell is a "Me
> > > too Jitensha". :)
> > > Grant wrote somewhere that he used to hang out at Jitensha, and that
> > > was where he knew "Pineapple Bob" of the Bridgestone catalog fame.
>
> > That is my understanding.
>
> > The BOBs may have to chime in here, but I always thought Bridgestone
> > in the Grant years was trying to translate at scale what the small,
> > Francophile Japanese shops (such as Toei) Jitensha championed were
> > doing.
>
> > On Feb 3, 8:55 pm, benzzoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 3, 1:08 pm, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Jitensha should not be included in a list of me too Riv companies.
>
> > > > Jitensha has been around for quite some time, possibly longer than
> > > > Riv, though I am not certain on that.
>
> > > Jitensha is actually pre-Rivendell, so if anything, Rivendell is a "Me
> > > too Jitensha". :)
>
> > > Grant wrote somewhere that he used to hang out at Jitensha, and that
> > > was where he knew "Pineapple Bob" of the Bridgestone catalog fame.
>
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>
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