Assuming equal number of top tubes, my guess is that the Sam falls between the Hilsen and the Atlantis, based on its description on rivbike.com: "It's a cross between the Atlantis, our cantilever-braked touring bike, and the A. Homer HIlsen, our roadish country bike. "It's a cross..." means it has tubing halfway in between the two (in wall thickness...) and the 40mm max tire clearance (and straight chainstays) of the A.Homer Hilsen.
I don't know about the Homer, but the Sam will do you good service on the farm, assuming the stand over is not too tight. I run 40mm tires on the Sam with fenders, and 42mm knobbies have plenty of space without fenders, and I am able ride some fairly technical singletrack with that setup. 45mm would probably fit as well, but haven't tried that. If you run something wider than a true 42-43 on a Sam, can you add a reply to the tire thread on the Hillborne Flickr page, please? http://www.flickr.com/groups/hillborne/discuss/72157625871894524/ Cheers, Gernot On Feb 14, 12:48 pm, CycloFiend <[email protected]> wrote: > on 2/13/11 5:11 PM, JimP at [email protected] wrote: > > > OK, two questions that have nothing to do with the ride quality. > > > I know weight is a taboo question but I like in a row house and have > > to carry my bikes up a fair number of stairs. Can someone list the > > frames in order lightest to heaviest? > > Now, now...weight isn't taboo. We just don't fixate on it. ;^) > > I'd reckon, based on nothing other than a guess: > (bird-boned to stout roleur) > Roadeo & San Marcos > Legolas > Quickbeam/SimpLeone > Ramboulliet > Hilsen > Atlantis > Hillborne > Yves/Betty > Hunquapillar > Bombadil > > Some variances for interstitial models with fewer tubes, of course. > > But, I'd also say that since the frame varies by 1 or 2 pounds max, and your > build would likely be mid 20's, that the frame weight is really only a > quarter of the built bike weight. So, if you are building it up, that other > 3/4 is where you want to look. Wheels, bb, saddle, etc... all those things > where losing the next pound is exponentially more expensive. > > > On the Rivendell site there are a number of Atlantis bikes pictured. > > Which color do you get without having to pay more? > > Standard color on the Atlantis has been the "creamy greenish blue", as > stated in the bicycle text. You may just be noticing variance in color > balance in the photos, though I think there are three custom colors also > shown. > > - J > > -- > Jim Edgar > [email protected] > > Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
