With all the vintage hubs in my collection, I have never bothered looking at Riv's hubs page.
I still do not understand the desire to buy a new 135 freewheel hub. PW along with many other companies make perfectly fine casette hubs in that size. The PW freewheel products page was not loading for me just now, but it appears from the main hub page that PW does make IRD specific freewheels from 120 up. I can understand a rider not wanting to spread the chainstays going with a PW and freewheel in that situation. However, if the IRD are not reliable, spreading chain stays is no big deal and would be my preference, unless the frame is a vintage Herse or something (and in that case, you may as well pop for a MaxiCar). On Feb 14, 2:50 pm, Minh <[email protected]> wrote: > Here's an email from a few months ago, i believe it's a slight spacing > optimization on the IRD phil wood hubs that make them special, but > that you can use regular free-wheels as well. > > --------------------------------- > The whole IRD/Riv FW thing confuses everyone I've talked to about it. > The guys at PW were kind enough to explain the IRD specific hub > design > to me last year when I was deciding on hubs for another set of > wheels. > " Garth, > OK I spoke with our engineer for a little more feedback > on this IRD thing because > it is basically a little confusing to me a well, here's > the scoop. These IRD hubs were > a concept dreamed up by Rivendell which took our > standard > freewheel hubs and > moved the hub shell over to the drive side by about 2mm > for the IRD freewheels > which is supposed to help off set the wheel dishing > (Rivendell likes to build wheels > with a little dish as possible) as well as the chain > line > when an IRD freewheel is used. > When Rivendell commissioned these IRD hubs they asked > that they be an Rivy exclusive > and we agreed to this for one year. After the year had > expired (this year) our engineer and > General Manager thought it would be a good idea to offer > the hubs as part of our product line > for riders who may want to have minimal dishing when > using an IRD. > So long story short the IRD freewheels can in deed be > used with either one of our freewheel > hubs it just depends on how concerned you are about > eliminating some of the wheel dish. > Now you know as much as I do about the reasoning behind > the IRD option and I > hope it clears things up a little. > Thank You, > Mark > Phil Wood & Co. " > In the end, I decided not to get the "IRD" FW hubs from PW, just the > same regular touring hubs I've been using. > You can still use any brand of FW with the IRD/Riv hub, it will just > be closer to the chainstay.... how close depends on your frame. > You can use an IRD FW with any english threaded FW hub. > BTW, I've been hearing more reports of IRD failures, despite the > later > supposedly improved models. There's supposed to be a new batch this > summer. Yes ..... those that got a good one say "what's the problem, > mine's been fine ?" For those that didn't .... it rots. I've never > heard of any FW having so many problems as the IRD ones. If you need > a > 13-28 and can live with the awful black Shimano 28 cog, their FW's > are > still good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
