Oh, and I'd never heard of that approach being implemented. But I've always felt I'd be happy with 6 speeds, if they I dexed well with quality available shifters. Alas, I fear that any solution involving 6/9-speed-cassette usage is even more esoteric than an IRD freewheel. And, in the end, I think my next step, if I need to take one, is to drop the need for dishlessness and get a Phil cassette wheel.
Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Feb 14, 2011, at 9:06 PM, rperks <[email protected]> wrote: > Thomas, > Out of curiosity, where are you riding that it is so cold? If it is > that cold and wet you may or may not have problems with diferent free > hubs freezing up as well, it can and has happened. Some manufacturers > go as far as selling their own greases / oils partially for these > reasons. If money were not the object, and wheel strentght is > paramount, you could look into some of the mountain bike single speed > hubs: King, Hope and DT all have single speed free hubs that will let > you run the back 6 cogs of a 9sp casette. These hubs all can be built > up dishless, and will index as well since it is a casette. Each has > some pros and cons, like stee vs Al freehub bodies, color options or > disc brake hole to ignore, but worth a look. If I burn out on > freewheels that is the direction I am heading. > > Rob > > > On Feb 14, 6:20 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean <[email protected]> > wrote: >> That strength-comparison is based on the axle being the weak component in >> the hub. With Phil hubs (and some others too, I'd guess) the axle is so >> over-built that even in the case of the freewheel the axle simply isn't >> likely to fail, even under the likes of me! >> >> So the idea is that uneven spoke tension rises to the top of the pile of >> compromises one would like to mitigate/eliminate in the built wheel. So >> reduced dish, as available with an IRD-style Phil FW hub when compared to a >> Phil cassette hub, becomes a more valuable component of the wheel than a >> strengthened axle. >> >> And yes, I have bent a Shimano axle and ruined a Deore hub that way. One of >> my failed wheels. >> >> Yours, >> Thomas Lynn Skean >> >> On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:57 PM, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>>> Can you (or someone else) explain why this is so? I thought the whole >>>> point of the cassette hub design was greater strength because the axle >>>> is supported by bearings further out to the right. So what makes this >>>> fw hub stronger even than the Phil fw hub? >> >>> That is what I have heard as well. Obviously I have no problem with >>> FW hubs - I've never even owned a set of cassette hubs - but always >>> thought maybe I was giving up some strength to the people riding on >>> those new fangled thangs. >> >>> On Feb 14, 5:59 pm, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean >> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> Generally, the 3-people-who-actually-know-these-things that I contacted >>>>> all implied or stated outright that a wheel built around a Phil Wood >>>>> IRD-style FW hub would be stronger than one built with a cassette hub, >>>>> all else equal. >> >>>> Can you (or someone else) explain why this is so? I thought the whole >>>> point of the cassette hub design was greater strength because the axle >>>> is supported by bearings further out to the right. So what makes this >>>> fw hub stronger even than the Phil fw hub? I must admit that I am >>>> skeptical of this 3-person claim, but I am open to enlightenment. >>>> (Ommmmm ....) >> >>>> As to Phil track hubs, I learned today that the bearings on my 2Xf >>>> fixed Phil are fine after almost 11K miles: the roughness was the >>>> not-fully-tightened spacer. >> >>>> Patrick "no dish, no worries" Moore >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
