I use the nuts provided with my Berthoud leather (whoopee!) flap on my
Berthoud ss 45s and, so far, no problem. These are nylock nuts, but
I've used blue Loctite on others. I would imagine that a joining
system that successfully holds fenders to frame or stays to fenders
for thousands of miles ought to work for flaps to fenders if properly
installed.

OTOH, the one time I did use zip ties for fenders, they lasted many
miles until I decided I wanted a method of attachment that looked a
little more couth.

I replaced the pop rivets on one front fender when they became scarily
loose; replaced them with bolts and Loctite.

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean
<thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Regarding mudflap attachment... I've tried three ways:
>
> 1) screws/lockwashers/nuts
> 2) twine
> 3) zip-tie(s)
>
> The only reason I tried (2) and (3) were because (1) and (2) failed,
> each within a few hundred miles.
>
> (3) hasn't failed, in about 4,000 miles of riding so far. On potholed
> buckling pavement and on rutted trails on two different bikes. I'm a
> little concerned about the zip-tie holding my Sackville mudflap to my
> aluminum fenders on my Hillborne's front wheel; it's been there a
> couple of months and it may be getting slowly sliced by the edge of
> the holes I drilled in the fender. I intend to insert rubber grommets
> if I ever have a problem there. But with my other bike and its SKS
> chromoplastic fenders, I've got a single zip-tie holding a Sackville
> mudflap on the front and two zip-ties holding a VO leather mudflap on
> the back. I admit I wasn't sure about the zip-ties with the (heavy)
> leather flap on the (flexy) sorta-plastic fender. But so far I've had
> no problems.
>
> My experience thus far has lead me to one solid conclusion... if I
> were to develop a habit of replacing that zip-tie every time I, say,
> re-shellac my handlebar tape or clean my front derailer, I'd expect
> never to have a problem.
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
>
> On Apr 17, 9:04 pm, Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I know folks are tired of me talking about my biking experiance but all I
>> can say anymore is wow.  Nice 40ish mile ride today on road with paved
>> trails, single track, mud, tree roots, rocks you name it.. smooth pavement
>> .. head winds, tail winds, just a great time.
>>
>> I don't know how fast I went and don't care.
>>
>> The wool undies, columbia shorts, and shirt combo was great with some older
>> hiking sandles.
>>
>> Recommendation:  Try to use rivits or find some ohter way to attach mudflaps
>> to fenders.  the nuts on the inside collected mud and made noise.  30
>> seconds with a small stick and all was quiet again for the road.
>>
>> Here are some photos..
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157626520888238/
>>
>> Kelly
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