I like the Berthoud Touring, for rides up to about 50-60 miles. For
those longer rides, the B17 just shines. The Berthoud is flatter than
the B17 across the top. I have my Berthoud set up just slightly nose
up. All my bikes are handlebar height equal to or up to inch below
saddle height.

I tried a Swift for awhile, but never found it near as comfortable as
the other two saddles It was OK for short rides say up to 30 miles. My
son likes it on his single speed. Its a bit strange to me that my bike
tastes are trickling down to my sons; strange but flattering. Then
again I lose re-saleable items such as lightly used Swifts.

On Jun 23, 10:51 am, Minh <mgiangs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Man, i really need to spend more seat time in my new berthoud saddle,
> my b17 is just so much more comfortable, i do indeed feel like the
> berthoud is floating while the b17 feels like i'm sinking into it.
>
> anyone have additional tips for setting up the berthoud?  it's still
> pretty new, but i just can't get comfortable enough to go for a long
> ride...
>
> On Jun 23, 10:09 am, rperks <perks....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Compared to my B17 and the short stint with a SA, the Bertoud floats
> > between your thighs.  The long nose is there to help with steering,
> > but narrow to bring any rub to a screeching halt.  For me the SA was
> > the polar opposite, no matter where I had the tension the more
> > triangular shape and skirt edges tore up the back and inside of my
> > thighs.  Saddls are so personal and a serious investment for most of
> > us to experiment with, but when you find the right one for you it can
> > be fantastic.  Good luck on your quest, the only thing harder than
> > finding the right saddle for you is helping your spouse find one
>
> > Rob
>
> > On Jun 23, 6:59 am, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Thanks for the posting, I found it interesting.  I use both the early
> > > Selle Anatomica, which is a bit narrower than the current offering,
> > > and a B17 and like them both very much.  My wife, on the other hand,
> > > has never found a saddle she likes.  They all seem to chafe on the
> > > inside parts.  From your pictures the Berthoud nose seems to get
> > > narrower faster and I wonder if that would work better for her.
>
> > > michael
>
> > > On Jun 23, 9:30 am, rperks <perks....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I was lucky enough to have a semi-surplus Brooks B17 on hand to trade
> > > > with Brad (jinxed) for his Swift - thank you.  While I was playing
> > > > musical chairs with the saddles in the stable I decided to take some
> > > > pictures and measurements comparing my three saddles of choice. The
> > > > Brooks B17, now a Swift and Berthoud Touring all have seen some time
> > > > on my bicycle rotation.  Detailed post with pictures here:
>
> > > >http://wp.me/p19mfs-ql
> > > > orhttp://oceanaircycles.com/2011/06/23/saddle-comparison-brooks-b17-swi...
>
> > > > Bottom line, all three are great saddles.  The B17 is my go to saddle
> > > > for bars at saddle height all the way to albatross and sitting bolt
> > > > upright.  The berthoud is my Goldilocks saddle, it is just wide enough
> > > > to support, but all excess material is out of the way.  Likewise it
> > > > has proven light, durable and waterproof over the last two years and
> > > > thousands of miles.  The Swift being new and firm needs to be broken
> > > > in.  It will reside on my roadeo for a bit as it sees the most miles.
> > > > Initial impressions after a couple 20 something mile rides is really
> > > > good, similar to the berthoud it suports you where you need it, but
> > > > there is nothing left to get in the way when you are bent forward a
> > > > bit.
>
> > > > Rob
> > > > -http://oceanaircycles.com/-Hidequoted text -
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