Thanks all for the feedback.  It sounds like I would need a very short
stem 6-7cm for the M-bars and probably a 12 for the A-bars...

All this talk of instability at speed has me now questioning the
Albatross, which I was favoring.  Perhaps I should consider a
straight(ish) bar or maybe something with a little more flexibility
like the Jitensha bar (which appears to be an abbreviated, somewhat
cross between the two)?

FWIW, I have the Noodles just about level with the saddle.


Thoughts?




On Jul 2, 12:23 pm, clyde canter <[email protected]> wrote:
> Shorter for the 'stach and longer for the 'tross, definately. I've tried
> both and the only setup that felt good to me was the 'tach bars on a bike
> that was too small, ie short top tube and an upjutting  (40 deg) stem.
> Problem there is getting them high enough. The "tross bars came close on my
> Hillborne, but there's something about those bars at speed that's
> disconcerting for me.  I'll borrow the term "squirrley. That's a good
> descriptor. The "at speed" part got me to thinking the albatross might be a
> good bar for a fixed application.  Hitting my top cadence in their upright
> position was interesting to say the least. Also, I almost crashed when
> reaching all the way down there for a bottle. All this has me fondly
> remembering my more flexible lower back of years past.  I now have my 48
> noodles a whopping 2 1/2 to 3 inches above my saddle and that is my mostest
> favoritest set up for everything. I should note that the only bikes I have
> that will allow this are my Rivendells.  Thanks Grant.
>  High bars and fluffy tires,
>  Clyde
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> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, charlie <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I have used a 12cm for Albatross bars and a 9cm with a 105 degree rise
> > for noodles on the same bike with a 58cm top tube. I have mustache
> > bars with a 10cm dirtdrop but on a bike with a 57 cm top tube. My
> > Simple One has a 9cm seven shaped nitto stem all the way up to the
> > mark with  Nitto Rando bars and a 58cm top tube. I purposely mounted
> > my albatross bars upside down making the grips level with the saddle
> > but it still put me too upright and the front end felt squirrely so I
> > went back to noodles. If my memory is correct a 3-4 cm longer is good
> > for Albatross bars and maybe a 2-3 cm shorter for mustache's.....
> > although you want them way taller so the curve is above saddle height
> > and the normal grip at least level with the saddle.
>
> > On Jul 1, 7:39 pm, rw1911 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be
> > > a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far)
>
> > > Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or
> > > Moutstache bars.  Can you share your experience in regards to stem
> > > length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the
> > > Noddle?
>
> > > I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and
> > > a slightly shorter for the Moustache?
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